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Cloud Native Chronicles
Johan van Amersfoort and Sander Harrewijnen
15 episodes
4 days ago
This podcast covers basically everything cloud native. Not just the tech, but also people aspect, the organizational aspect, product, and a bit of marketing of the product. In every episode, the hosts will cover a theme, and will bring in multiple bold statements linked to the theme which they will debunk. Episodes are somewhere between 20 and 30 minutes, so they can be easily digested during lunch, your commute to work or home, in the gym, or after your weekly stand up :)
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This podcast covers basically everything cloud native. Not just the tech, but also people aspect, the organizational aspect, product, and a bit of marketing of the product. In every episode, the hosts will cover a theme, and will bring in multiple bold statements linked to the theme which they will debunk. Episodes are somewhere between 20 and 30 minutes, so they can be easily digested during lunch, your commute to work or home, in the gym, or after your weekly stand up :)
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Cloud Native Chronicles
Live at Red Hat Summit: Inside the world of Ansible and OpenShift AI | ITQ Cloud Native Chronicles

In this special episode of Cloud Native Chronicles, recorded live at Red Hat Summit: Connect 2025, Robert Kloosterhuis sits down with Luca Bertone, engineer, author and Ansible expert, to explore the evolution of automation, AI-powered platform engineering and how technologies such as Ansible, Kubernetes and OpenShift AI are shaping the future of IT.


Luca shares insights from his work at Red Hat, his experience in highly regulated industries and his journey from writing Ansible by Examples to exploring AI-driven automation. Together, they discuss how organizations can combine open source innovation with enterprise reliability and scale.


In this conversation you will learn more about

  • How Ansible integrates with modern DevOps tools including Terraform, Argo CD and Tekton
  • The role of GitOps and configuration management in hybrid and multi-cloud environments• Red Hat’s Ansible Automation Platform and OpenShift AI in enterprise-scale environments
  • The importance of aligning open source innovation with commercial support• Luca’s upcoming projects, including his new book on AI and automation


This episode is for anyone interested in the intersection of AI, automation and cloud native engineering, from developers and SREs to architects and platform engineers.

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6 days ago
12 minutes 15 seconds

Cloud Native Chronicles
Live at Red Hat Summit: Portworx & OpenShift in the Hybrid Cloud | ITQ Cloud Native Chronicles

In this live edition of ITQ Cloud Native Chronicles, recorded at Red Hat Summit Connect Utrecht, Robert Kloosterhuis and Erik Zandboer dive into the evolving world of cloud native storage.

They explore how Portworx by Pure Storage delivers a consistent, scalable storage experience across private and public clouds and how this empowers organizations to run stateful workloads efficiently on Red Hat OpenShift.Robert and Erik discuss the role of storage abstraction in Kubernetes, why consistency across environments matters, and how enterprises can prepare for a hybrid, multi-cloud future where performance, control, and automation define success.👉 Learn more about ITQ Cloud Native: https://itq.eu/cloud-native#itqcloudnativechronicles #redhatsummit #portworx #purestorage #openshift #kubernetes #cloudnative #hybridcloud #storagesolutions #itq #datamanagement #cloudinfrastructure

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1 week ago
18 minutes 3 seconds

Cloud Native Chronicles
Live at Red Hat Summit: Andrew Block on Helm, OCI & AI | ITQ Cloud Native Chronicles podcast

In this special live edition of ITQ Cloud Native Chronicles, recorded at Red Hat Summit: Connect 2025, Robert Kloosterhuis sits down with Andrew Block, Distinguished Architect at Red Hat, to discuss the evolution of Helm, the rise of OCI as a distribution standard, and how AI is reshaping the cloud native landscape.Andrew shares his perspective on the upcoming Helm release, the growing role of OCI in container ecosystems, and his work on ModelPack, a new standard for packaging and distributing AI models. They also explore how organizations can adopt cloud native technologies effectively, balance skills and innovation, and use AI-driven automation to simplify IT operations.

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1 week ago
10 minutes 9 seconds

Cloud Native Chronicles
Test-driven Development

Summary


In this episode of Cloud Native Chronicles, the hosts delve into the intricacies of Test-Driven Development (TDD). They discuss the fundamental principles of TDD, including the Red-Green-Refactor cycle, the importance of various testing types, and how to define test outcomes. The conversation also touches on performance testing, the role of AI in development, and the benefits of pair programming. Key takeaways emphasize the need for a structured approach to testing, the significance of sanity checks, and the value of tests as documentation for code behavior.


Chapters


00:00 Introduction to Test-Driven Development

00:55 Understanding the Red-Green-Refactor Cycle

03:37 Types of Testing: Unit, Integration, and End-to-End

05:10 Defining Test Outcomes and Behavior Testing

08:48 Performance Testing and Requirements

10:39 The Importance of Sanity Testing

13:53 Optimizing Test Structures

13:59 Standardized Testing Frameworks

16:00 Test-First vs. Test-After Approaches

18:28 AI in Test-Driven Development

20:46 Pair Programming and Testing

21:42 Key Takeaways and Conclusion


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3 months ago
28 minutes

Cloud Native Chronicles
Pair Programming

In this episode of Cloud Native Chronicles, Johan and Sander discuss the concept of pair programming, its mechanics, benefits, challenges, and the role of AI in programming. They explore how pair programming can enhance team collaboration, knowledge sharing, and efficiency in software development. The conversation also touches on the differences between remote and in-person pair programming and offers insights on how to implement this practice effectively within teams.


Chapters


00:00 Introduction to Pair Programming

02:26 The Mechanics of Pair Programming

05:06 Benefits and Challenges of Pair Programming

07:39 Pair Programming vs. Code Reviews

10:20 AI in Pair Programming

12:31 Learning and Knowledge Sharing through Pair Programming

15:30 Remote vs. In-Person Pair Programming

18:12 Implementing Pair Programming in Teams


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4 months ago
22 minutes 52 seconds

Cloud Native Chronicles
KubeCon 2025 - HashiCorp

In this final KubeCon EU 2025 throwback, Johan sits down with Karim Satirli from HashiCorp for a candid and technical conversation on cloud-native tooling, open source culture, and the evolving role of Nomad in AI and edge computing.

From solving real customer problems on the KubeCon show floor to discussing how HashiCorp products like Terraform, Vault, and Nomad support hybrid cloud, multi-cluster Kubernetes, and even Raspberry Pi-powered fish farms — this episode covers the spectrum of modern infrastructure needs.


🧩 Topics Covered

  • What HashiCorp showcased at KubeCon EU 2025

  • Terraform and Helm for hybrid Kubernetes workloads

  • A real-world use case: deploying to both EKS and AKS from a unified Terraform pipeline

  • The engineer-first mentality of solving problems on the spot

  • Nomad's support for GPU scheduling and multi-instance GPUs

  • Edge computing stories — including running Nomad on Raspberry Pi 2s for fish farms

  • The relevance of Nomad in air-gapped or non-containerized environments

  • The return of HashiDays London — why you should attend and what to expect

  • HashiDays London – happening June 2025 at the Montcalm, London

  • HashiDays Singapore – July 2025, featuring cloud engineering and business tracks
    → Register at: hashidays.com


📬 Feedback or Questions?

We’d love to hear from you!
Email us at: podcast@itq.eu


🔗 Connect with Us


Host: Johan van Amersfoort
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/vhojan
Twitter/X: @vhojan

Guest: Karim Satirli
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ksatirli
Twitter/X: @ksatirli


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4 months ago
13 minutes 52 seconds

Cloud Native Chronicles
KubeCon 2025 - VMware

In this episode of Cloud Native Chronicles, the Johan engages in a detailed conversation with Katarina Brookfield from VMware about their cloud native offerings, particularly focusing on VMware's Kubernetes service integrated within the VMware Cloud Foundation. They discuss the complexities of Kubernetes and how VMware aims to simplify the deployment and management of Kubernetes clusters and virtual machines. The conversation also touches on VMware's contributions to the CNCF landscape and the relationship between VMware's VCF and Tanzu platforms.


Chapters


00:00 Introduction to Cloud Native Chronicles and KubeCon 2025

01:11 VMware's Cloud Native Offerings and Kubernetes Integration

04:11 Simplifying Kubernetes Complexity with VMware Solutions

09:56 Contributions to the CNCF Landscape and Community Perception

14:39 Understanding VMware's VCF and Tanzu Relationship


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5 months ago
29 minutes 35 seconds

Cloud Native Chronicles
KubeCon 2025 - Kubeflow, OpenShift AI, and Veeam

In this episode of Cloud Native Chronicles, we explore the highlights from KubeCon 2025, focusing on conversations with Riccardo Martinelli about Kubeflow and Michael Cade about Veeam's cloud-native strategies. The discussions delve into the features and adoption of Kubeflow, the differences between OpenShift AI and vanilla Kubeflow, and the importance of contributions from the community. Additionally, we examine Veeam's role in data protection and the evolving landscape of AI and Kubernetes.


Chapters


00:00 Introduction to KubeCon 2025 and Kubeflow

01:38 Exploring Kubeflow: Features and Adoption

07:41 OpenShift AI vs. Vanilla Kubeflow: Key Differences

11:32 Contributing to Kubeflow: Opportunities for All

14:59 Veeam's Role in Cloud Native and AI

20:04 AI and Data Protection: The Future of Backup

25:05 Conversations on Kubernetes and Virtualization


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5 months ago
29 minutes 57 seconds

Cloud Native Chronicles
Platform as a Product

In this episode of Cloud Native Chronicles, Johan and Sander dive into the concept of 'Platform as a Product', exploring its significance from a developer's perspective.

They discuss the importance of user feedback, the role of product owners, and the challenges of adopting new technologies. The conversation also touches on the balance between commercial and open-source solutions, the necessity of self-service capabilities, and the importance of effective communication and marketing to ensure platform adoption.

Key takeaways emphasize starting small, evolving the platform, and treating it as a product that serves the needs of developers.


Chapters


00:00 Introduction to Platform as a Product

01:14 Understanding the Developer's Perspective

03:30 The Role of Product Owners in Platform Teams

05:02 Exploring Different Technology Stacks

08:10 Replicating Cloud Experiences On-Premises

10:02 Adoption and User Feedback for Platforms

12:51 Building Self-Service Capabilities

16:08 Choosing Between Commercial and Open Source Solutions

19:51 The Importance of Communication and Education

25:21 Key Takeaways and Conclusion




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6 months ago
28 minutes 20 seconds

Cloud Native Chronicles
Navigating the Golden Path in Software Development

In this episode of Cloud Native Chronicles, Johan and Sander discuss the concept of the 'Golden Path' in software development, emphasizing the importance of standardization and developer experience.

They explore how a well-defined Golden Path can streamline deployment processes, reduce the burden on product teams, and foster innovation while avoiding shadow IT. The conversation highlights the need for balance between providing structure and allowing flexibility for teams to adapt to their unique requirements.

The episode concludes with key takeaways on the evolving nature of the Golden Path and its role in enhancing productivity within organizations.


Chapters


00:00 Introduction to Cloud Native Chronicles

03:04 Understanding the Golden Path

06:01 The Role of Standardization in Software Development

08:51 The Golden Path as a Product

12:00 Balancing Freedom and Structure in Development

15:05 The Importance of Developer Experience

18:04 Avoiding Shadow IT with the Golden Path

20:50 Defining the Golden Path: Who's Responsible?

23:53 Conclusion and Key Takeaways



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6 months ago
26 minutes 22 seconds

Cloud Native Chronicles
KubeCon 2025 - Sidero Labs

In this first KubeCon Special of Cloud Native Chronicles, Johan van Amersfoort engages in a conversation with Justin Garrison from Sidero Labs, discussing the innovative solutions Talos Linux and Omni. They explore the unique features of Talos as a Kubernetes-only Linux distribution, its maintenance advantages, and the small footprint it offers. The discussion also covers Omni's role in centralized management for Talos nodes and the importance of open-source contributions in the cloud-native ecosystem. Justin shares insights on the future of infrastructure and the podcasting landscape.

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6 months ago
21 minutes 6 seconds

Cloud Native Chronicles
The 10-Minute Build: Efficiency in Cloud Native Development

In this episode of Cloud Native Chronicles, hosts Johan and Sander discuss the concept of the 10-minute build, emphasizing its importance in maintaining developer focus and efficiency.

They explore the technical and cultural aspects of build processes, the significance of team dynamics, and the necessity of standardizing builds across different teams. The conversation also touches on the balance between speed and reliability in software deployment, advocating for a culture of confidence in shipping software quickly while minimizing risks.


Chapters


00:00 Introduction to Cloud Native Chronicles

01:26 Understanding the 10-Minute Build Concept

06:08 Team Dynamics and Build Efficiency

11:01 Standardizing Build Processes Across Teams

14:33 The Importance of Fast Builds

19:54 Moving Fast Without Breaking Things

23:00 Key Takeaways and Conclusion


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7 months ago
25 minutes 1 second

Cloud Native Chronicles
The Product Mindset: A New Approach to Development

In this episode of Cloud Native Chronicles, hosts Johan and Sander explore the concept of a product mindset in software development.

They discuss the differences between building software and creating a product, emphasizing the importance of understanding stakeholder needs and engaging with them throughout the development process.

The conversation highlights the significance of early feedback, iterative planning, and team collaboration, using Tesla as a case study to illustrate successful product development strategies.

The episode concludes with key takeaways on starting small and fostering a cultural shift towards agile methodologies.


Chapters


00:00 Introduction to the Product Mindset

03:06 Understanding Product vs. Software

06:14 The Importance of Stakeholder Engagement

09:13 Learning from Tesla: A Case Study

12:01 The Role of Early Feedback

15:01 Planning and Iteration in Product Development

18:02 Team Collaboration and Communication

20:45 Transitioning to an Agile Mindset

23:12 Key Takeaways and Conclusion

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7 months ago
25 minutes 23 seconds

Cloud Native Chronicles
Building Balanced Teams in Cloud Native Development

In this episode of Cloud Native Chronicles, hosts Johan and Sander discuss the concept of balanced teams in cloud-native development. They explore the essential roles needed for effective product development, the risks associated with not validating products, and the challenges posed by siloed organizations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of collaboration across disciplines and the need for leadership to drive cultural change within organizations. Key takeaways include the necessity of diverse skill sets in teams and the dangers of building products without user validation.


Chapters


00:00 Introduction to Cloud Native Chronicles

01:04 The Importance of a Balanced Team

06:07 Essential Roles in Product Development

11:57 The Risks of Not Validating Products

14:05 The Dangers of Siloed Organizations

18:50 Transitioning from Silos to Balanced Teams

21:09 Key Takeaways and Conclusion



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8 months ago
23 minutes 48 seconds

Cloud Native Chronicles
Welcome to Cloud Native Chronicles!

In the inaugural episode of Cloud Native Chronicles, hosts Johan and Sander introduce the podcast's focus on cloud native technologies from a developer's perspective. They discuss the broad definition of cloud-native, the importance of efficiency in software development, and the various perspectives within the cloud native ecosystem. The episode outlines upcoming topics, including team structure and common challenges faced in the industry, while emphasizing a shorter format for accessibility. The hosts express excitement for exploring the vast landscape of cloud-native technologies and invite listeners to engage with the podcast.


Chapters


00:00 Introduction to Cloud Native Chronicles

02:55 Understanding Cloud Native from a Developer's Perspective

05:59 Exploring Upcoming Topics and Structure

08:59 Conclusion and Future Directions


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8 months ago
9 minutes 5 seconds

Cloud Native Chronicles
This podcast covers basically everything cloud native. Not just the tech, but also people aspect, the organizational aspect, product, and a bit of marketing of the product. In every episode, the hosts will cover a theme, and will bring in multiple bold statements linked to the theme which they will debunk. Episodes are somewhere between 20 and 30 minutes, so they can be easily digested during lunch, your commute to work or home, in the gym, or after your weekly stand up :)