How do you take your whisky?
Neat? Splash of water? Block of ice? Or even a mixer?
However you take it, join John Beattie, former Scotland rugby international and semi-retired BBC radio and TV news presenter, as he celebrates the heritage and flavour of Scotland's national drink and the world's favourite spirit.
Whether you call it whisky, whiskey, uisge beatha, aqua vitae, or the water of life... there's a story behind every dram; a craftsman behind every drop; an aroma with every nose; and a flavour in every sip.
This is the spirit of Scotland: distilled in a place; shared around the world.
What makes it so special? Why is it so loved? And who are the people that make it, and the aficionados who drink it?
Join John every Thursday as he explores the alchemy that takes place from cask to glass.
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How do you take your whisky?
Neat? Splash of water? Block of ice? Or even a mixer?
However you take it, join John Beattie, former Scotland rugby international and semi-retired BBC radio and TV news presenter, as he celebrates the heritage and flavour of Scotland's national drink and the world's favourite spirit.
Whether you call it whisky, whiskey, uisge beatha, aqua vitae, or the water of life... there's a story behind every dram; a craftsman behind every drop; an aroma with every nose; and a flavour in every sip.
This is the spirit of Scotland: distilled in a place; shared around the world.
What makes it so special? Why is it so loved? And who are the people that make it, and the aficionados who drink it?
Join John every Thursday as he explores the alchemy that takes place from cask to glass.
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Host: John Beattie
Producer: David Holmes
Socials:
@C2GWhisky
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As we've heard several times in previous episodes of Cask to Glass, China is one of the great untapped markets for Scotch whisky.
With a populaton of 1.4 billion, China's the second most populous country in the world. And last year Scotland exported 30 million 70cl bottles to China at a value of £161 million, making it the 10th largest market for Scotch both in terms of volume and value. But when you consider that Scotland exported the equivalent of 1.7 billion bottles worth £5.4 billion in 2024, it's a small market compared to the size of its population.
So, how do you expand the market?
Since 2014 Chen Li, founder of Magna World Travel and owner of the newly opened Edinburgh Whisky House Hotel, has been running whisky tours for Chinese tourists. She describes the Chinese market as "a big meaty pizza".
"Everybody wants a piece of it," she says."Everybody wants a slice from the pizza. But to do business with China, it's not easy. It's not that straightforwward. There are many barriers."
"China needs patience," Chen continues. "Working with China or doing any business with China needs patience. Consider for you to send some money abroad. Forty, or fifty thousand, just by a blink? We need a relationship to build first. So that's how you should start: build relationships. Do you send them New Year message during Chinese New Year? Do you send them a message on China's national day."
These things matter.
Called 威士忌酒 in Simplified Chinese and pronounced "wēi shì jì jiǔ", Chen says whisky is synonymous with Scotland - or 蘇格蘭 in Traditional Chinese, 苏格兰 in Simplified Chinese and pronounced Sūgélán.
But there are only about 600,000 serious whisky drinkers in China, Chen suggests, "ones who buy the premium brands."
And she cautions: "To be honest there are a lot of people who don't really know much about Scotland. The know England. They know London. Scotland is not very popular yet."
"So our job," Chen continues, "is to create an itinerary.We influence people of where they go; what they do; what they eat; where to stay."
Join John as he talks to Chen about her understanding of the Chinese whisky market; how she provides whisky tours around Scotland; and how she's trying to turn one of Scotland's most famous, ancient houses - Auchenbowie House, once owned by the descendants of Rober the Bruce - into the first Chinese built distillery in Scotland.
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Or 干杯 - which means "empty cup", and's pronounced: Gānbēi!
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Music: Water of Life (Never Going Home)
Vocals: Andrea Cunningham
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Drums: Alan Hamilton
Bagpipes: Calum McColl
Accordion: Gary Innes
Music & Lyrics: Andrea Cunningham & John Beattie
Recorded & mixed by Murray Collier at La Chunky Studios, Glasgow, Scotland
Special thanks: The Piper Whisky Bar, 57 Cochrane Street, Glasgow, Scotland
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Eighty five years in the making. One hundred and 25 decanters produced. £125,000 a pop.
Released on the 2 October, and already almost entirely sold out...
"More people will have summited Everest this year alone than will ever get to taste this whisky, never mind own it," declares Stephen Rankin, Director of Prestige at Gordon and MacPhail. "There's something like 600, 700 people - maybe more than that - start off to summit Everest and they tend to all do it in the springtime and about 60 or 70 percent of those people will ever actually reach the top."
It's some statistic that puts into context just how special Gordon and MacPhail's 85 year old single malt from Glenlivet Distillery is.
"You're talking about one of the rarest, most historic, scarcest, not just whiskies in the world, but matured spirits in the world," Stephen continues. "I don't know if there's many other spirits - because spirits are matured in the cask that as soon as you take it ouf the cask that's the age stopped. There will be older bottles in the world bu there won't be older matured spirits in the world so it could be the oldest matured spirit in the world as well."
On 3 February 1940, just five months after the start of the Second World War, Stephen's grandfather George Urquhart and great-grandfather John, filled a sherry cask made from American oak with new make spirit from Glenlivet. The cask, Stephen says, "was selected because it was a big sherry transport cask. These casks were very different. They were, one it was made of an American oak because it's a little bit tougher and tighter. The grain is much tighter and the staves were made much, much thicker.
"It was there to withstand the rigmarole of being rolled around quay sides and platforms before going on boats and trains an the like, and ultimately end up in the far north of Scotland."
The barley had come from the last peace-time harvest. And filling the cask, Stephen says, "was an act of hope and optimism."
In this episode John talks to Stephen about why this whisky is so special; how it survived the war years when whisky was in short supply and was monitored over the intervening years before being bottled and released.
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Drums: Alan Hamilton
Bagpipes: Calum McColl
Accordion: Gary Innes
Music & Lyrics: Andrea Cunningham & John Beattie
Recorded & mixed by Murray Collier at La Chunky Studios, Glasgow, Scotland
Special thanks: The Piper Whisky Bar, 57 Cochrane Street, Glasgow, Scotland
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"You have to offer value at every level" declares Simon Thompson, one half of Thompson Brothers distillers, independent bottlers and founders of Dornoch Distillery, in Dornoch in the north of Scotland, deep in the heart of the Highlands.
That's why he and brother Phil are always trying to work out what they "can get away with" at the "lower end" of the price spectrum, because Phil says, "You want to sell out and turn over quickly."
Phil and Simon also own Dornoch Castle Hotel. The hotel has been in the Thompson family for 25 years, and that's where their whisky journey really began.
"Back in the day," Simon explains, "we used to run the family hotel whisky bar. That led to us kind of taking on whisky as a bit of a hobby. We would end up taking it a little bit too seriously; start collecting; start falling in love with older styles of whisky; start going to live auctions, picking up bottles for ourselves and for our bar."
In this episode, Simon and Phil tell John how their hobby quickly led them to research older styles of whisky "trying ot figure out where certain flavours and intensities of flavours that existed in older bottles" came from. They began "reverse engineering old style whisky which then eventually turned into some practical experimentatation, which turned into building a tiny, baby distillery."
At Dornoch Distillery, Phil continues, "we probably have deliberately the most expensive cost of production - even if you're to ignore the small scale."
They only use "heritage varieties" of barely that were in use before the 1960s; brewing strains of yeast instead of modern distillers' yeast; extra long fermentation - "seven days as standard"; and manual cut points.
"We make our cut points based on the sense of smell, sense of taste by whoever's rolling the stills on that particular day," Simon says.
"It allows them," Phil interjects, "to kind of slow down and speed up where required when it's coming towards the cut point."
"Basically everything's geared towards maximising old style quality at great expense of materials, time and lower yield. So yeah, it's one extreme, probably not a scalable model," Simon continues.
The brothers are now building a new distillery - Struie Distillery - which aims to be 100 percent electrified and completely fossil fuel free.
Where "Dornoch is no holds barred;whatever it takes," Simon says, "Struie is trying to find those sweet spots between old style production and modern production."
"We just need to pay for it," Phil concludes.
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Drums: Alan Hamilton
Bagpipes: Calum McColl
Accordion: Gary Innes
Music & Lyrics: Andrea Cunningham & John Beattie
Recorded & mixed by Murray Collier at La Chunky Studios, Glasgow, Scotland
Special thanks: The Piper Whisky Bar, 57 Cochrane Street, Glasgow, Scotland
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"I'm very fluid with how I take my whisky," admits Scott Sneddon, the Managing Director of InchDairnie Distillery in Fife in this episode of Cask to Glass. So neat; a little bit of water; some ice; or even as a cocktail.
But, Scott also continues, "I'm very very old fashioned. I like a hauf an' a hauf. So I always like to have a beer and whisky at the same time. So it really depends on what beer I've got in my other hand in how I take my whisky."
A beer and a whisky. A half and a half. Or in Scott's Scots venacular, a hauf an' a hauf. It's a traditional way of drinking whisky in many parts of Scotland: a wee dram and half a pint of beer; but perhaps out of fashion now.
Yet, Scott says, InchDairnie isn't an entirely traditional Scotch whisky distillery. Yes they malt the grain. Yes they double distill And yes they mature their spirit in oak barrels.
But they deviate too.
"We don't have a traditional mash tun that all the industry have.," Scott explains. "We're one of only two in Scotland that has a mash filter. And that's important becaus a mash filter enables you to process grains that would otherwise be quite difficult to process in a traditional distillery."
Grain like rye for example; malted of course; matured for five years in virgin American oak barrels sourced from forests in Orzak or the Appalachians. "But," Scott adds, "for the second distillation, we used a Lomond still. And a Lomond still is a pot still with a column still in the neck. And what that gave is a very very light spirit, very flavourful as well."
This is InchDairnie's Ryelaw.
"To look forward, sometimes you have to look backwards," Scott explains. "So there's records from the 1908 Royal Commission and within those records it details what grains were being used in distilling at the the time, and one of them was rye. But there is no definition of rye whisky in Scotland. The regs don't allow it."
Perhaps Ryelaw epitomises InchDairnie's vision. As Scott explains: "The company is basically built on tradition but it's been powered by innovation."
Join John as he chats to Scott about the synergy between the old and the new; InchDairnie's other labels (including KinGlassie Raw and KinGlassie Double Matured); the company's 3Ms philosophy (material, method and maturation); and how Fife's five modern distilleries are putting a the region on the whisky map.
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Creator & producer: David Holmes
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Guitars: John Beattie
Bass: Alasdair Vann
Drums: Alan Hamilton
Bagpipes: Calum McColl
Accordion: Gary Innes
Music & Lyrics: Andrea Cunningham & John Beattie
Recorded & mixed by Murray Collier at La Chunky Studios, Glasgow, Scotland
Special thanks: The Piper Whisky Bar, 57 Cochrane Street, Glasgow, Scotland
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"Whisky is distilled and matured to be enjoyed," declares Russell Bradley, Head of Brand Development at newly launched independent bottlers One Cask at a Time.
"But," he adds, "people buy with their eyes."
So the look and the packaging is his starting point. Then it's down to great whisky to follow through on the image.
"I originally came from graphic design. That's what I studied," he tells John in this episode. "I then got into the design world; into print and packaging, which in central Scotland essentially leads you into the spirits and whisky world."
But, Russell continues, "for me, the most important thing is the liquid."
"We only bottle single casks," Russell says. "We bottle everything at cask strength, natural colour, exactly as it should be."
So he seeks out great casks with great whiskies to make up One Cask at a Time's three series: Chronograph, Pendulum and Grandfather, named after time pieces "because time is arguably the most important ingredient in Scotch whisky."
"As an independent bottler," Russell explains, "we can select from any distillery from any region within Scotland."
But, he says, he's looking for is that one cask which will "showcase our brand as well as the distillery." Distilleries like Ben Nevis, Glentauchers, Auchentoshan, Ledaig, Aultmore and Highland Park.
Each bottle contains a "digital passport" embedded in the neck that allows owners to track their bottle's provenance, cask history and tasting notes on their smartphones It's a way of "bridging tradition with technology."
So tune in to John's conversation with Russell, recorded on the eve of company's launch at the start of September.
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Bagpipes: Calum McColl
Accordion: Gary Innes
Music & Lyrics: Andrea Cunningham & John Beattie
Recorded & mixed by Murray Collier at La Chunky Studios, Glasgow, Scotland
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"Whisky is for everyone," declares Kristiane Westray, whisky writer, educator and judge. Her book Savour: A guide to tasting and exploring whiskies of the world, published by Bloomsbury, is out next month.
But, Kristiane continues, there's still a misogyny around whisky. "I want to invite people into the whisky industry, but I do sometimes worry that I'm inviting people - particularly under-represented groups - into a space that might not be entirely safe for them."
"I think everywhere there's misogyny," she tells John in this episode. "I think in male dominated industries especially there's misogyny. And I think in whisky, you have that, but you also have the layer of alcohol on top of it, which unfortunately, and it shouldn't do, can mean that filters come off or people behave in ways that they shouldn't because they are drunk or feel enabled in some other way".
As a 37-year-old, openly gay woman, Kristiane says she has "a much easier time of it of late. But," she continues, "younger women in the industry who are maybe brand ambassadors, who are on the front line of events, or other writers will tell me stories of being harassed, being groped and all of this stuff, and I'm like 'No. We need to as an industry collectively work much harder at this."
"It's horrible to say," Kristiane adds, "because I want to invite more women in and more non-binary people, more people from different ethnicities, more working class people..."
That's why she's an advocate of "safe space whisky places" and greater diversity in the industry.
But how did Kristiane get into the industry?
"I was writing for a travel and retail magazine and I wanted to be a fashion and beauty journailst.That was the dream. And I remember my editor saying, 'You've got to go off to Sweden to cover the the Viking Line Whisky Fair.'
"I was 24 and I was like, 'I don't like whisky. It's going to be full of drunk men' (which it was), but I had to go... and I tasted whisky for the first time and I fell in love with it."
In this episode Kristiane tells John about her whisky journey. They discuss the different marketing strategies adopted by Johnnie Walker with Sabrina Carpenter and Glenmorangie with Harrison Ford; how you can improve your olfactory skills to appreciate whisky better; and how enjoying whisky is a "mix of art, science and storytelling."
So pour yourself a dram - as it comes, or with ice or with water, or - as Kristiane recommends - ginger ale or soda or any other mixer - and tune in. After all, whisky is for everyone!
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Bagpipes: Calum McColl
Accordion: Gary Innes
Music & Lyrics: Andrea Cunningham & John Beattie
Recorded & mixed by Murray Collier at La Chunky Studios, Glasgow, Scotland
Special thanks: The Piper Whisky Bar, 57 Cochrane Street, Glasgow, Scotland
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Could Scotch whisky be exempted from US tariffs?
In this episode, after his whirlwind visit last week to meet US President Donald J Trump at the White House, Scotland's First Minister John Swinney joins John Beattie to discuss the prospects of a deal on US tariffs on Scotch whisky.
Ten percent US tariffs are costing the Scotch whisky industry £4 million a week, Mr Swinney says.
But Scotland, he adds, imports $300 million worth of Kentucky bourbon barrels every year. And tariffs are having an impact on that trade too.
"I'd also had the fortunate position to meet with one of the cask producers in Kentucky before I met Mr Trump," Mr Swinney explains. "And he was telling me that he was already having orders cancelled from Scottish distilleries. So the real life effect of the tariffs is having an effect in America already."
It's a story that's been picked up by The New York Times, which reported on 15 September 2025 that "if 10 percent tariffs persist, the United States will lose 3,300 jobs and the US hospitality industry would lose $300 million according to the Distilled Spirits Council [of the United States]."
One of the Scottish distilleries The Times mentioned was Kilchoman Distillery on Islay (featured in Episode 8), which imports 60 percent of its barrels from Kentucky.
So a deal, Mr Swinney says, would be "a win-win": "It's also not a deal that causes any other collateral implications because Scotch whisky can only be produced in Scotland. Kentucky bourbon can only be produced in Kentucky. So there's no transfer of trade that can be involved. But there is an economic benefit for both sides of the pond if we get this right."
But what was it like pitching a proposal to the most powerful man on the planet in the most well-known office in the world?
"I had to know my onions about my proposal because he was questioning me. It was a questioning experience."
But in essence, Mr Swinney says, "I was saying, 'Here's a deal which will benefit the Scotch whisky industry, yes, but it'll also benefit the distilling industry in the United States'."
So will there be a deal?
"I think there's an attractive proposition there. The question is, will we pull it off? And well, we'll get an answer to that in due course."
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Bagpipes: Calum McColl
Accordion: Gary Innes
Music & Lyrics: Andrea Cunningham & John Beattie
Recorded & mixed by Murray Collier at La Chunky Studios, Glasgow, Scotland
Special thanks: The Piper Whisky Bar, 57 Cochrane Street, Glasgow, Scotland
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How much whisky is stored in warehouses across Scotland?
"Nobody really knows," says Martin Purvis of Commercial Spirits Intelligence. He tried to find out from HMRC - the UK's revenue and customs office. But they wouldn't tell him; not even when he used freedom of information legislation to get an answer.
But he fears there's too much stock in too many barrels in too many warehouses: "I joined the trade 20 odd years ago," he says, "and in that time all I've seen is warehouse building."
It's not just a Scottish problem. Whisky or whiskey, it doesn't matter. "Everywhere is struggling," Martn says.
"For most brown spirits that are matured in barrels for a period of time, the biggest challenge right now is that there's too much maturing inventory versus current sales," he tells John Beattie in this episode of Cask to Glass.
Martin and his colleague Duncan MacFadzean analyse the whisky industry. They study HMRC records. And his conclusion?
"Malt whisky has really had a hard time of over the last couple of years. It's 40 percent off the top in terms of volume. And it's 12 percentage down over six months in year-on-year versus last year."
"There's a lot of competition and drinkers are less loyal," he continues. "The trade has really done a good job of premiumisation - certainly single malt."
"But," he adds, "it's still expensive. Ten years ago I would have been drinking the odd bottle of 18 year old single malt. These days I'd probably be given a row if I came home with a bottle of 18 year old single malt given the price point it's at."
But he remains optimistic, concluding: "Good product well positioned and well priced with a good liquid will do well."
Still he suggests, the industry needs a "reset".
Join John and Martin as they discuss the state of the industry; the challenges it faces; the role of casks; and how Martin tries to reduce the Angels' Share...
"I live down the road from a complex which has got probably 10 million barrels. The amount of evaporation that is taking place from that location is really high. If you reduce that by one percent it's a huge number. So incredible commercial value here."
Tune in as Martin tries to predict the future of whisky.
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Bagpipes: Calum McColl
Accordion: Gary Innes
Music & Lyrics: Andrea Cunningham & John Beattie
Recorded & mixed by Murray Collier at La Chunky Studios, Glasgow, Scotland
Special thanks: The Piper Whisky Bar, 57 Cochrane Street, Glasgow, Scotland
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"You'll know the game, John," admits Stephen Woodcock, head of Whisky Creation and Stocks for Glen Turner, makers of Glen Moray, Cutty Sark and many other fine whiskies and spirits. "You want to play slightly offside..."
Slightly offside?
Perhaps Stephen shouldn't be telling John this. But it's too late now. And besides what's done is done.
"We kind of brand ourselves as cask explorers," Stephen explains. "We're not feart to give something a go."
It's Stephen's job to explore and innovate, and try to create something new out of something traditional and simple: "I'm very lucky because I've got the freedom to do that."
But there's a downside, he continues: "We've been in trouble with the SWA a couple of times."
Trouble for what?
Trying to produce whisky in Champagne casks, cider casks and even maple syrup casks.
Why would that upset the Scotch Whisky Association, which regulates what is and isn't Scotch whisky?
Well for starters, Stephen confesses, "You don't actually get a Champagne cask. You only get white wine. It's not Champagne until you put it in a bottle and add yeast. So, into trouble for that. And cider isn't traditionally aged in oak barrels. So we got into trouble with the SWA for that. But we won't do it again."
And maple syrup casks?
"It wasn't whisky... It's a spirit drink. It doesn't say whisky on the bottle, I need to be clear about that... But the spirit was absolutely sublime. You almost get a kind of smoky bacon note to that. The whole piece was to have an American breakfast in a dram glass."
Innovation aside, Stephen's job is to think 30 years ahead, and as he explains to John, work out how to get there.
So join John, Stephen (and Stephen's dog Ron), as Stephen reveals how he and Glen Turner make something magical out of what is basically just water, cereal and a fungus, matured in very special wood.
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Drums: Alan Hamilton
Bagpipes: Calum McColl
Accordion: Gary Innes
Music & Lyrics: Andrea Cunningham & John Beattie
Recorded & mixed by Murray Collier at La Chunky Studios, Glasgow, Scotland
Special thanks: The Piper Whisky Bar, 57 Cochrane Street, Glasgow, Scotland
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When you think of whisky - Scotch whisky - where do you think of?
Islay? Campbeltown? Speyside? Or, if you want to be more specific, Dufftown? Or Aberlour?
But what about Glasgow?
It's the largest city in Scotland. It's still the country's industrial heartland. So why not the capital of whisky too?
Far-fetched as that may seem, Neill Murphy - who blogs about whisky as A Scot on Scotch - believes there's a barley grain of truth in the idea. "Glasgow," he says, "should be better thought of, really... We have a lot of whisky history in this city that's been forgotten about by most people. I myself included. I'm constantly researching and finding new things I didn't know about."
The first Glasgow distillery - "that we know of" - he says, was founded in 1770. "And between then and 1903, there were something like 27 distilleries operating in the city of Glasgow."
There was the Adelphi Distillery, Yoker Distillery and Dundas Hill, "which was up on the banks of the Forth and Clyde Canal." (In 1887, Alfred Barnard reported that Port Dundas produced "no less than 2,562,000 gallons" of whisky a year and generated £430,000 in duties. That's equivalent to £72 million in today's money.)
"There's just so many," Neill continues. "And that's before you even take into account all the blenders and things. We had Teacher & Sons and Mackie & Co. So the Teacher's Highland Cream was a blend that came from Glasgow. The White Horse Blend came from Glasgow. There's so much history there. And, as I say, even the people of Glasgow have forgotten most of it."
So, in November 2024, Neill and his business partner John McGuire, started Scottish Rogue, to put Glasgow "back on the whisky map." They provides distillery tours, whisky tastings and whisky bar walking tours around the city. They do, however, stretch the outskirts of Glasgow to include the Deanston Distillery in Perthshire. "But," Neill says, "it's only about maybe 45 minutes, 50 minutes away. And I think it's a bit of a hidden gem really."
But, Neill insists, there are two great genuine Glasgow distilleries worth exploring: Clydeside Distillery on the River Clyde and The Glasgow Distillery in Hillington.
Tune in as Neill tells John about his love of whisky, which was sparked at a Highland funeral (where else?) and his thoughts on the state of the industry.
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Bass: Alasdair Vann
Drums: Alan Hamilton
Bagpipes: Calum McColl
Accordion: Gary Innes
Music & Lyrics: Andrea Cunningham & John Beattie
Recorded & mixed by Murray Collier at La Chunky Studios, Glasgow, Scotland
Special thanks: The Piper Whisky Bar, 57 Cochrane Street, Glasgow, Scotland
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Kenny and Viktorija Macdonald like the word "mòr", Scots Gaelic for "big".
Growing up, Kenny was known as Coinneach Mòr ("Big Kenny"). He and Viktorija met in the Glasgow pub Òran Mór ("big song") over a dram of Dalmore ("big meadow").
"That whisky has a lot to answer for," Viktorija jokes...
After they'd hitched up, they decided to start a whisky company called Dràm Mòr: Big Dram.
Iniatially they acted as agents for other whisky producers, utilising Viktorija's contacts in her native Lithuania to export uisge beatha to the Baltic states and Ukraine, before expanding elsewhere into Europe.
But before all that - and Viktorija - Kenny had "many different hats". And two jobs. He was a meat inspector for the Food Standards Agency and a nightclub bouncer for 27 years, where he says, "I have seen every form of stupidity the human race has to throw at me."
So how did they get into the whisky industry?
"It was Viktorija's fault," Kenny insists. "Let's be perfectly clear about that. So I came home from work one night and Viktorija said to me: 'Why do you do what you do? You obviously hate it'."
"Well of course I hate it," Kenny says he replied. "It's my job." But, he continues, "Viktorija said, 'Some folk really enjoy what they do.' And you know, to my utter shame, I laughed at her."
But Viktorija, Kenny says, persisted: "What would you love to do?"
And then it dawned on him: "I love whisky."
That's when they decided to start Dràm Mòr. And they eventually went from agents to independent bottlers.
But how did they get there?
In this episode Kenny and Viktorija tell John about their whisky journey; how they started Dràm Mòr; the markets they trade in; their thoughts on the current state of the whisky industry; and how they believe people in Ukraine and the countries neighbouring Russia - like the Lithuania and the other Baltic states - are, as Viktorija puts it, "drinking more of the good stuff because they don't know how long they're going to live."
People in Ukraine, Viktorija tells John, are "living between hope and hell. Literally."
Theirs is a sobering tale about the universality of hope over fear; and the simple pleasure that can be found, even in the worst of times, from a simple dram.
So raise your glass to life, hope and fortitude. If you know your history, it's what Scotch whisky has always stood for.
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Creator & producer: David Holmes
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Vocals: Andrea Cunningham
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Drums: Alan Hamilton
Bagpipes: Calum McColl
Accordion: Gary Innes
Music & Lyrics: Andrea Cunningham & John Beattie
Recorded & mixed by Murray Collier at La Chunky Studios, Glasgow, Scotland
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Three weeks ago, US President Donald Trump came to Scotland on a private visit. During the trip he met Scottish First Minister John Swinney at his golf course in Aberdeenshire, where the two men discussed trade, tariffs and whisky.
In an exclusive interview for 𝗖𝗮𝘀𝗸 𝘁𝗼 𝗚𝗹𝗮𝘀𝘀, Mr Swinney reveals details from those discussions as well as his own affection for whisky, especially Aberfeldy and Glenmorangie.
Of his talks with Mr Trump, Mr Swinney says; "I was making the pitch for the Scotch whisky industry and for Scotch whisky to be exempt from tariffs." Adding that he told Mr Trump the United States would also benefit if Scotch was exempted from tariffs because Scotland imports $300 million worth of bourbon barrels every year from the United States.
And Mr Swinney says he reminded Mr Trump that Scotch whisky is like Kentucky bourbon: "Where Kentucky bourbon can only be produced in Kentucky, Scotch whisky can only be produced in Scotland."
So does he think Mr Trump might now exempt Scotch whisky from the current 10% tariff which, according to the Scotch Whisky Association, is costing the industry £4 million a week?
"I think President Trump has this on his radar now. I don't think he had it on his radar before he came to Scotland. I think he came to Scotland thinking that the US-UK trade deal was all concluded and that that was it."
As well as telling John about his discussions with Mr Trump, Mr Swinney reveals that he gave Mr Trump a framed copy of the handwritten entry in a ledger from the parish of Tong on the Isle of Lewis recording the marriage of the President's great grandparents in 1853, along with "an extract from the 1921 census from Stornoway which includes, of course, for the first time in the census record, his mother, Mary MacLeod, at the age of nine."
Aside from telling John about his meeting with Mr Trump, and discussing the significance of whisky to both Scottish identity and the Scottish economy, Mr Swinney, who doesn't drink "an awful lot of alcohol nowadays", admits he does have one or two particular whisky favourites: "I'm very fond of Aberfeldy whisky from my own constituency in North Perthshire. Also, I suppose habitually, I've probably been very fond of Glenmorangie. And that's been very special to me."
So tune in for the whole interview.
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Bagpipes: Calum McColl
Accordion: Gary Innes
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"Ooh! Ooh! Ooh!"
Remember Episode 14, when master blender Max McFarlane gave John what he calls "an off note whisky"?
"Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! Max!"
It took John a while to the find words to describe what he was tasting. But he finally got there: "It tastes like... poison!"
Well that was an extreme example. But what else can go wrong with whisky? And how can you spot a bad whisky on the nose before it gets anywhere near your tongue?
In this episode, Max gives John a masterclass in how to spot bad whisky aromas with the aid of a few random samples from the Aroma Academy's Faults Aroma Training Kit. The kit's designed to help people develop "aroma recogntion skills". And, Max says, even master blenders do this kind of training.
So stand by for descriptions like "solvent", "black tea with a peated note", "nail varnish", "your granny's old cupboard", and John's particular favourite "cheesy vomit".
"You may not find all of them in a whisky," Max says, "but you're training your nose."
And as an additional bonus, do you always have to spend £50 or £60 on a nice whisky?
Producer Holmsey stopped by his local Lidl on the way to this recording and picked up two whiskies for under £20.
So tune in to find out how John and Max get on at nosing artificially manufactured unpleasant aromas, and to get Max's verdict on Lidl's Glen Orchy 5 Year Old Blended Malt Whisky and its Balmuir 3 Year Blended Scotch Whisky.
Which one do you think "wants to holiday in your palate", as Max puts it?
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In 1887, when Alfred Barnard published his seminal guide to the The Whisky Distilleries of the United Kingdom, he catalogued 129 Scottish distilleries, 28 Irish ditstilleries and four English distilleries.
There were no Welsh distilleries.
And yet, says Sean Williams host of the Wisgi Wales Podcast and founder of Wales Whisky Fest and the Welsh Whisky Society, "distilling can allegedly trace its roots to Wales; to north wales; to a little place called Bardsey Island, where the monks - you know, in myth - distilled a distilate which was pretty much aqua vitae or new make spirit."
That was in the fourth century AD.
"So it's been in our culture a long time," Sean adds, even if "we're a nation of beer drinkers historically."
And aside from a distillery started in the late 19h century and closed in early 20th century, Sean says, it wasn't until the establishment of Penderyn Distillery in the 1990s that the Welsh whisky industry began to take shape.
Today there are seven distilleries in Wales with "more in the pipeline." And Welsh whisky, or Whisgi Cymreig, now has its own GI or geographical indicator status.
In this episode, Sean chats to John about the origins of the whisky industry in Wales; some of the distilleries leading the way; what makes Welsh whisky different from other whiskies; the widespread use of wine casks. And he introduces John to three different Welsh whiskies:
Aber Falls Maderia cask - 47%
Penderyn Copperopolis sweet red wine cask - 46% ABV
Anglesey Môn Bourbon cask - 40%
"If you've tried Welsh whisky, they're not seven of the same type. It is very varied and not one is like the other," Sean explains.
But he continues, "They've all got a story to tell. From the stills to the people, they're completely different through Wales."
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Golf and whisky. Two of Scotland's great exports.
They've gone around the world. Now the world rounds on Scotland to experience them both.
And Hamish Malcolm brings them together..
Aka The Dram Caddy, Hamish combines his role as a golf caddy with that as a whisky guide, providing whisky tastings to golfing tourists. Usually matching five drams to five courses from Dornorch in the north to St Andrews in the east.
But nothing obvious. So no Macallans.
"I'm looking maybe for the dram less travelled. Some of the more underdog group brands. Because there's no point giving the visitors what they can get back home or in Duty Free," Hamish says
By his own admission Hamish is "a bit of a late developer into whisky."
For 38 years he worked in banking. But he gave it up and became a caddy at Castle Stuart, a golf course east of Inverness on the Moray Firth, and for three days a week a sales assistant at the Highland Whisky Shop in Inverness.
"After a few weeks, I stumbled upon maybe I could be quite good at doing the tastings." So he put two and two together - golf and whisky - and started The Dram Caddy.
"I'll never get tired of seeing people either taste whisky for the first time," Hamish says, "or taste peated whisky for the first time."
Join John as he chats to Hamish about his new career, the whiskies he loves, and how he connects whisky and golf for overseas tourists.
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"It's an extraordinary time in whisky's history," says Dave Bloom author of The World Atlas of Whisky; now in its 3rd edition but completely rewritten.
Over 500 distilleries profiled; 480 whiskies sampled. No wonder Dave jokes: "I didn't have grey hair when I started."
But why extraordinary?
"Because there's never been such a period in whisky's history where so much has been made in so many different styles in so many different countries," he tells John. "If you think back to whisky's recent history, the last 100 years or so, essentially it's been dominated by Scotch and was dominated until very recently by Scotch blends."
"So the world of whisky essentially belonged to Scotch. And now you have, I would say pretty much every country in the world where distillation is legal, making whisky."
"There's probably too much whisky getting made," he continues. "But if you are a whisky lover, you have never had so much choice."
But all that whisky presents problems for the industry, and Dave cautions, "There will be casualities."
Like in Ireland, where the Waterford Distillery collapsed earlier this year.
"It's this perfect storm, " he explains. "You have low consumer confidence. You have political issues. You've got war. You have a generational shift that's taking place."
Still it's happened before; "essentially every 20 years or so." But while Dave says there's "no magic bullet", he remains optimistic: "Whisky is resilient and whisky always has got out of these problems. And it will take some clever strategies, but it will get out of it."
Sure young people aren't drinking traditional drams. And they're drinking less. But they are drinking highballs and whisky cocktails. Dave's seen it in his own local whisky bar, Cut Your Wolf Loose in Brighton.
So while he admits he "might have been coming over as some sort of doommonger" in this episode, "there's a lot of positives out there," he insists.
And a lot of innovation too. Who'd have thought there would one be at least two whisky distilleries in the Arctic circle or subtropical whiskies from India, China and Taiwan?
That's "the joy of whisky", he concludes. "There is always something new coming through the door. And that keeps you alive and that keeps you interested and that keeps the energy going."
So raise a dram, straight, iced, diluted or mixed, to "Scothland".
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"I didn't set Nc'Nean up to appeal to women," admits Annabel Thomas, founder of Nc'Nean Distillery, "but you know, I think maybe because my story ends up being told, because we have equal parts men and women working at the company, we do get probably more attention from women than maybe other brands."
"That being said," she continues, "more than half of our consumers are still men, which reflects the reality of the whisky industry today."
And while Annabel insists "there's no logical reason" why women shouldn't drink or work in whisky, she's quick to point out there's a lot of "rebalancing to be done"; even "if you look at the industry and who the blenders are in some of the biggest and the smallest companies, [and you see] they're often women."
Women like Diageo's Emma Walker, Master Blender for Johnnie Walker.
Still when Annabel began her Nc'Nean journey in 2012, she "didn't want make a whisky that was traditional and like all the others."
"I wanted to make a whisky," she says "that did something different and attracted a new crowd and could tell a different story." Most importantly she wanted to make a sustainable whisky, that's 100% organic: "Part of our mission, aside from making delicious whisky, is too do good for people and the planet."
So Annabel built Nc'Nean on a parcel of land on the Morvern Peninsula overlooking the Isle of Mull on the west coast of Scotland.
By her own admission, "It's very remote". Incredibly beautiful, but remote: after travelling north for two and half hours from Glasgow, past Loch Lomond and through Glencoe, almost as far as Fort William, "you take the little Corran ferry across the Corran Narrows.
"You're greeted with a double track road to begin with," Annabel continues, "but very shortly that turns into a single track road. And you drive for about an hour on a single track road up to the tip of the Morven Peninsula. And then the road runs out and you drive on a track for a mile and then you get to the distillery. And we have a nice barrel halfway along that track that says: 'Nearly there'."
In this episode, Annabel tells John about:
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Whisky's about time and place and company for Gordon Dundas, Brand Development and Advocacy Director of Ian Macleod Distillers.
One of Gordon's best whisky experiences was at an awards dinner in Edinburgh.
He was sitting beside a colleague from Ian Macleod and his good friend Julian Van Winkle of Old Rip Van Winkle Distillery -- "before Van Winkle had gone really silly pricewise and rarity and scarcity". There was, he says, a bottle of Balblair 38 on the table. "So we poured this Balblair 38. And at that moment in time, prbabaly an hour or so, and the chat, the everything, and that Balblair 38 did not last very long."
A year on, Gordon continues, he was visiting the Van Winkles at their home in Louisville, Kentucky. "I'm sitting on their porch," he recalls, "and out comes a Balblair 38. I think it's the only distillery he'd ever been to in Scotland. It's the only single malt he's really ever drunk and enjoyed... and we go: 'Do you remember that night?'"
"Whisky for me, that's what it's about."
Time. Place. And company.
Beyond that Gordon has no rules when it comes to whisky: "I'm an advocate of cocktails. I'm an advocate of straight. I'm an advocate of ice. I'm an advocate of anything."
"As long as people are drinking whisky in whatever way they want to, I'm very happy."
Single malt or blend... it doesn't matter. "Whisky is just whisky now," Gordon insists.
"Twenty years ago," he says, "a blend was an old man's drink, in a general sense. Single malts were still a discovery for people."
But he reminds us, the diversity in Scotch whisky and the range of single malts exist because of the blended market, which is why he likes to go on the auctions to by blended whisky from the 1970s and 80s.
Listen in as Gordon talks to John about his 20-plus years in the whisky industry, eight of them at Ian Macleod's, a family owned drinks company, famous for its Glengoyne, Tamdhu and Rosebank distileries, and -- dare we say it? -- its gins. And there's a fourth Scottish distillery on its way: Laggan Bay on the Isle of Islay, opening in three months' time.
Ian Macleod also owns Una Distillery in the northern Indian state of Himachal Pradesh, in the foothills of the Himalayas, which, Gordon says, will be releasing its first single malt in two years' time.
So settle down, pour yourself a dram -- or with Gordon's permission and encouragement, a highball with with some ginger ale or tonic as its summer in the UK and we need something cold and refreshting -- and tune in.
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"It's a really challenging time in Scotch whisky at the moment," admits Graeme Littlejohn, Director of Strategy & Communications at the Scotch Whisky Association. "I guess we'd call it an inflexion point for the industry."
That's a view we've heard from several contributors on the podcast in our previous 21 episodes.
For instance, in Episode 15 Andrew Symington of Edradour Distillery told John the industry was facing "headwinds". Andrew identified the cost of living crisis; the effects of Brexit; global supply chain issues; international competition; and over production and over pricing. Whisky writer Charles Maclean also identified over production in Episode 7. He described it as a "whisky ocean".
And in recent weeks there have been announcements of job losses and investments being postponed. So are we in a slow down?
Perhaps.
But while Graeme acknowledges that "Scotch whisky is under a lot of pressure in the global market place" and some smaller producers are "really struggling right now", he insists there's a "great deal of resilience" in the industry.
There are, he says, over 150 Scottish distilleries producing 22,000 different "expressions of whisky" and exporting them to 168 markets worldwide at the rate of 44 bottles a second. It's a £7 billion plus industry, and £5.4 billion come from exports. Scotch whisky makes up 25 percent of UK food and drink exports. And the industry supports nearly 70,000 jobs.
It's also a long-term game, with producers thinking 10, 20 even 30 years ahead. And with developing markets in India, China and South America to be cracked, Graeme says we might discover we don't have enough whisky to meet demand if we get it right.
Join John as he chats to Graeme about the challenges and opportunities facing the Scotch whisky industry; the SWA's vision for the sector over the next couple of decades; the "symbiotic relationship" between Scotch and American whiskey; and what the UK and Scottish governments can to do to support the industry.
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"There's a whisky for everyone," says former Scotland rugby international Ryan Grant and independent bottler with Unkiltered.
"Including the Welsh," he adds.
Aye! You can pick a Scottish rugby player for the British and Irish Lions, but you can't take away the Home Nations rivalry.
Ryan was on the last Lions tour to Australia, back in 2013. And as the 2025 Lions get set to embark on their latest tour down under, Ryan joins John, who toured with the Lions to South Africa in 1980 and New Zealand in 1983, for a 6 Nations vs Australia whisky tasting under the watchful eye of Master Blender and rugby referee Max McFarlane.
Seven whiskies. One winner. All picked by Max himself.
And the the line up?
But what order will they finish in?
Settle down with your favourite dram, and prepare yourself for descriptions like butterscotch, cream soda, Drumstick Squash Ems, fresh tar, damp tent, and popcorn; as well as a bit of rugby chat along the way.
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PS: No national rivalries influenced the making of this podcast. At least none that we are conscious or unconscious of. Honest!
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