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All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Petra Wille & Teresa Torres
34 episodes
23 hours ago
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra – Unfiltered, insightful, and straight to the point. Join Teresa Torres and Petra Wille as they dive into the world of product management—one topic at a time. No long interviews, no fluff—just real conversations about the challenges, trends, and ideas shaping the way we build products. Each week, we tackle a different topic in short, digestible episodes (15-30 minutes)—perfect for your morning commute or coffee break. 🎯 What to expect: 🔹 Curated randomness: We take turns picking topics, bringing fresh perspectives to each discussion. 🔹 Unscripted, authentic conversations: Personal experiences, opinions, and practical advice—without the corporate polish. 🔹 For product people, by product people: Whether you're a product manager or product leader, you’ll find insights you can actually use. Expect deep dives into product thinking, decision-making, leadership, experimentation, AI, and more—plus the occasional spicy take. 💡 Got a topic you’d love us to cover? Send it our way! 🎧 Listen to All Things Product on your favorite podcast platform and join the conversation.
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All Things Product with Teresa and Petra – Unfiltered, insightful, and straight to the point. Join Teresa Torres and Petra Wille as they dive into the world of product management—one topic at a time. No long interviews, no fluff—just real conversations about the challenges, trends, and ideas shaping the way we build products. Each week, we tackle a different topic in short, digestible episodes (15-30 minutes)—perfect for your morning commute or coffee break. 🎯 What to expect: 🔹 Curated randomness: We take turns picking topics, bringing fresh perspectives to each discussion. 🔹 Unscripted, authentic conversations: Personal experiences, opinions, and practical advice—without the corporate polish. 🔹 For product people, by product people: Whether you're a product manager or product leader, you’ll find insights you can actually use. Expect deep dives into product thinking, decision-making, leadership, experimentation, AI, and more—plus the occasional spicy take. 💡 Got a topic you’d love us to cover? Send it our way! 🎧 Listen to All Things Product on your favorite podcast platform and join the conversation.
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Episodes (20/34)
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Context Is King
AI can be a powerful teammate, but only if we give it the right context. In this episode of All Things Product, Teresa Torres and Petra Wille unpack why “context is king” when it comes to using AI in product work. They share practical ways product leaders can start preparing today—from keeping decision logs to designing machine-readable context—so their teams are ready to collaborate effectively with AI tomorrow.
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6 days ago
16 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Moments That Changed Us
In this episode of All Things Product, Teresa Torres and Petra Wille swap the stories that shaped their careers. From navigating the fallout of the 2008 recession as a startup CEO, to realizing the company won’t love you back no matter how loyal you are, to the first user interviews that cracked open a new way of seeing product work—these are the pivotal (and sometimes funny) moments that changed everything.
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1 week ago
26 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Product & Leadership Legacy
In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres dive into a big end-of-year reflection question: What do you want to be known for in your work? They unpack the nuances of impact, craft, personal brand, and values—exploring how those ideas shape the footprints we leave behind in our teams, organizations, and the broader product community. Along the way, Petra and Teresa share personal stories, surprising insights, and a few lessons learned the hard way. Whether you’re thinking about your own growth, preparing for career transitions, or just curious about how others reflect on their product practice, this episode offers both inspiration and pragmatic takeaways.
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2 weeks ago
17 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Deliberate Practice
In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille sits down with Teresa Torres to explore a big shift in how Product Talk Academy is approaching learning: moving from purely instructor-led cohort courses to offering on-demand options. Teresa shares why she resisted on-demand for so long, how deliberate practice has always been at the heart of her teaching, and what finally changed her mind. From AI-powered interview coaches to microlearning formats, we dig into how technology can support behavior change, skill building, and the craft of continuous discovery without losing the human element. If you’ve ever wondered how to balance flexibility, structure, and deliberate practice in product learning—or you’re just curious how AI might reshape how we build skills—this conversation is for you.
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3 weeks ago
12 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
AI as a Strategic Thought Partner with UX Implications
Teresa Torres and Petra Wille dive into how they’re using AI as strategic thought partners across writing, coding, and product work. Petra shares how she relies on voice input and bilingual transcription to brainstorm and surface her past writing. Teresa explains why Claude Code in the terminal completely changed her workflow—from planning mode for coding projects to using reviewer “sub-agents” when drafting blog posts. Together, they reflect on how tools like ChatGPT and Claude complement each other, why they still write every word themselves, and what it means when English becomes the interface for everything we do.
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1 month ago
27 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
AI Evals & Discovery
Building AI products isn’t just about clever prompts and orchestration—it’s about knowing if what you’ve built actually works. In this episode, Teresa Torres and Petra Wille dive deep into AI evals: how they’re defined, why they’re essential, and how teams can implement them to ensure product quality. Teresa shares her journey building her Interview Coach tool and the hard lessons she learned about evals along the way. From golden datasets and synthetic data to error analysis, code-based checks, and LLM-as-judge methods, you’ll walk away with a clearer picture of how to measure and improve AI products over time.
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1 month ago
26 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Building AI Products
In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille flips the script and asks Teresa Torres a big, timely question: How do product teams learn to build AI-powered products—beyond just dabbling with ChatGPT? Teresa shares fresh insights from her own experience building a real AI product over the past several months, breaking down the unique skills, workflows, and cross-functional collaboration patterns required for success. You’ll hear why building AI features is more like orchestrating a team of interns than just writing a killer prompt, and how practices like observability, evals, and ongoing maintenance need to evolve for the LLM era. If you’re a product person figuring out where AI fits in your org, this conversation will give you a clear, practical starting point.
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1 month ago
21 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Stop Chasing Promotions
So many of us chase promotions as if they’re the ultimate career milestone—but are they really the best goal? In this conversation, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres unpack why promotions can be a tricky (and sometimes misleading) target, what to focus on instead, and how to reframe career growth around skills, influence, and personal fulfillment. In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres dig into the obsession with promotions and why they might not be the best north star for your career. Instead, they explore what it looks like to invest in personal growth, craftsmanship, and influence—and how those things can open doors far beyond a title change.
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1 month ago
12 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Curation
We’re back from our summer break! In this first episode of the new season, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres catch up on Product at Heart and dive into the conference’s 2025 theme: curation. From backlogs and customer segments to product experiences and your own workload, curation is everywhere in product work. Petra and Teresa explore why this skill is more critical than ever—especially in a world where AI is making it faster and cheaper to build. You’ll hear how to avoid the “Homer Simpson car” trap, why saying “no” is part of the job, and how to define your own curation criteria so you can make sharper, more intentional choices. Whether you’re easing back into work post-summer or staring down a mountain of priorities, this episode will help you put on your curator’s hat and focus on what matters most.
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2 months ago
18 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Summer Break
In this quick update, Teresa and Petra share their plans for a summer break. With August just around the corner—and in true European fashion—they’re hitting pause to rest, recharge, and enjoy some time outdoors. Expect a return to regularly scheduled programming on September 2nd. Until then, enjoy your summer, whether you’re wing foiling and hiking South Tyrol like Petra, building cool stuff like Teresa, or just soaking up the sun.
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3 months ago
2 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Go to the Source
In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres unpack one of their favorite guiding principles: "Go find the source." With the rise of social media hot takes and oversimplified content, it’s easy to misunderstand product frameworks and best practices. Petra and Teresa share real-life examples—from OKRs to Opportunity Solution Trees—to show why it's so important to dig deeper, trace ideas back to credible origins, and seek out diverse perspectives. Whether you're tired of shallow takes on LinkedIn or just want to sharpen your product thinking, this episode will help you build a more thoughtful, informed, and intentional product practice.
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3 months ago
21 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Red Flags When Choosing A Coach
In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres dig into one of the most common — and tricky — questions they get: How do I choose the right product coach? If you’ve ever scrolled past 7,500 “product coaches” on LinkedIn and wondered who’s actually worth your time and money, this one’s for you. Teresa and Petra share red flags to watch out for, green flags that signal quality, and practical tips for vetting coaches across product discovery, leadership, and more. Whether you’re looking for your first coach or want to sanity-check your current shortlist, you’ll walk away with a clear framework to help you make an informed choice.
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3 months ago
24 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Funding Projects Vs. Teams
In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres dive deep into a question from a listener: What’s the real difference between organizations that fund projects and those that fund teams? It’s a deceptively simple question that touches the core of shifting from a project-based mindset to a product operating model. Teresa and Petra unpack what it actually takes to move toward team-based funding—especially when continuous discovery is involved. From annual planning and ROI modeling to bridging the communication gap with finance, they talk through the practical, messy, and often political nature of this transformation. If you’re a product leader, product manager, or work closely with finance, this episode is packed with insights on how to drive outcomes, not just output—and why it matters.
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4 months ago
21 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Leading Or Managing Chaos
In this episode, Petra Wille gives us a behind-the-scenes look at her newest framework—the Product Leadership Wheel. Building on the success of her PM Wheel, Petra shares how she’s tackling the complexity of product leadership by helping leaders self-assess across 12 core responsibilities. From directional clarity to cultural advocacy and process oversight, we dig into what it really takes to grow as a product leader (and why it’s okay if you’re not amazing at everything). Whether you’re a CPO, Head of Product, or aspiring product leader, this episode will help you reflect on where you’re thriving, where you can grow, and how to build support across your org.
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4 months ago
24 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
AI Prototyping
AI prototyping tools are mushrooming—Replit, V0, Bolt, WindSurf, and more—but do they actually help with discovery work? In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres discuss how AI-powered tools can supercharge assumption testing, where they still fall short, and what that means for product teams today. From building chat interfaces with custom data to testing leadership self-assessment tools, both Petra and Teresa share their hands-on experiences—what worked, what was frustrating, and how these tools can fit into continuous discovery habits. Whether you're a product manager, designer, or engineer wondering if these tools are a game-changer or just hype, this conversation breaks it down with real talk and real use cases.
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4 months ago
20 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
What is Product Ops?
In this episode of All Things Product, Teresa Torres and Petra Wille unpack one of the most ambiguous roles in product organizations: Product Operations. What is product ops, really? Is it strategy alignment? BI and analytics? Coaching? Stakeholder management? All of the above—or none? Drawing from real-world examples, Teresa and Petra dig into the evolving definition of product ops, where it overlaps with other functions (like HR, Agile coaching, or the CPO role), and when it actually adds value. If you’ve ever wondered whether your org needs a product ops team—or what to do with the one you have—this one’s for you.
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4 months ago
22 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Measurable Outcomes
In this episode of All Things Product, Teresa Torres and Petra Wille tackle a classic product question with a twist: Should all outcomes be measurable? Teresa revisits a long-held belief—that outcomes should be metrics—and explains why she’s starting to shift her thinking. Drawing from hands-on product work (like rethinking outcomes at a recruiting platform), Teresa shows how focusing on value creation moments can sometimes matter more than tracking clean metrics. Petra adds her perspective with the Google HEART framework, highlighting how starting with signals instead of goals can lead to smarter product decisions. Whether you’re early in discovery or leading a seasoned product team, this episode helps you rethink how to frame success—even when it’s hard to measure.
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5 months ago
13 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Giving and Taking in a Community
In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres dive deep into an increasingly relevant (and occasionally frustrating) topic: how people show up in communities—and whether they’re showing up to give or to take. From in-person meetups and Slack groups to book signings and LinkedIn interactions, Petra and Teresa explore the subtle (and not-so-subtle) differences between authentic contribution and self-serving behavior. They share personal stories, real-world examples, and some tough love about what it really means to engage meaningfully. If you've ever wondered how to grow your network, become a sought-after speaker, or simply be a better community member—this one’s for you.
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5 months ago
33 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Product vs. Project Operating Models
Can an organization operate with both a product and a project mindset—at the same time? In this episode, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres unpack one of the most common operating model questions in product organizations today. They dive deep into the differences between project and product operating models, when each one makes the most sense, and why the answer to “either/or” is usually “yes, and.” From legacy software roots to modern product teams juggling compliance work and customer outcomes, Petra and Teresa explore real-world examples, practical frameworks, and the importance of staying flexible. Whether you’re deep in continuous discovery or trying to modernize legacy workflows, this episode offers clarity and nuance around how we frame the work—without getting dogmatic.
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5 months ago
14 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
Saying No
Saying no is hard — but it’s essential to great product management. In this episode of All Things Product, Petra Wille and Teresa Torres dive deep into the art (and science) of saying no as a product manager. They explore why learning to say no isn’t just a skill — it’s core to the job — and how to do it thoughtfully without losing trust or momentum. From frameworks for filtering ideas, to the magic of “not yet” vs. “hard no,” to when it’s okay (and even encouraged) to just say yes — Petra and Teresa unpack real-world tips you can apply with your team today.
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5 months ago
22 minutes

All Things Product with Teresa and Petra
All Things Product with Teresa and Petra – Unfiltered, insightful, and straight to the point. Join Teresa Torres and Petra Wille as they dive into the world of product management—one topic at a time. No long interviews, no fluff—just real conversations about the challenges, trends, and ideas shaping the way we build products. Each week, we tackle a different topic in short, digestible episodes (15-30 minutes)—perfect for your morning commute or coffee break. 🎯 What to expect: 🔹 Curated randomness: We take turns picking topics, bringing fresh perspectives to each discussion. 🔹 Unscripted, authentic conversations: Personal experiences, opinions, and practical advice—without the corporate polish. 🔹 For product people, by product people: Whether you're a product manager or product leader, you’ll find insights you can actually use. Expect deep dives into product thinking, decision-making, leadership, experimentation, AI, and more—plus the occasional spicy take. 💡 Got a topic you’d love us to cover? Send it our way! 🎧 Listen to All Things Product on your favorite podcast platform and join the conversation.