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Across The Lines
Angie and Jay
40 episodes
4 days ago
Across The Lines is a podcast that highlights the stories of Pan Asian American leaders and explores the intersection of their personal and professional journeys. Our vision is to inspire and empower the next generation of leaders through candid conversations about the confluence of identity and work.
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Across The Lines is a podcast that highlights the stories of Pan Asian American leaders and explores the intersection of their personal and professional journeys. Our vision is to inspire and empower the next generation of leaders through candid conversations about the confluence of identity and work.
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Across The Lines
S3 Ep 11 | Career Advice Compilation

This week we’re excited to share our third season career advice compilation. In our episodes, we ask our guests “what is one piece of contrarian advice you would give?”

There were so many gems in those answers and we wanted to share them for you to incorporate into your own careers. You'll hear from Debby Soo, Nick Mehta, Dave Liu, Neeracha Taychakhoonavudh, Sandro Roco, and Sriram Krishnan who are several of our wonderful third season guests.

Angie & Jay

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If you enjoyed today’s conversation about the intersection of work and Asian American identity, please subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and leave us a review to spread the word. We’d really appreciate it!

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3 years ago
8 minutes 44 seconds

Across The Lines
S3 Ep 10 | Angie, Jay & Ankita Reflect On Season Three

In this episode, we’ll be reflecting on our second season! Creating and building this podcast has been such an insightful and rewarding journey. In this week's episode, our team reflects on the joys, challenges, and learnings of Season 3. We'll be speaking about the following:

  • Our reflections and learnings from the past year   
  • Aligning your career decisions based on where you receive your energy
  • The balance between creative energy and being disciplined 
  • Ankita's decision to leave the podcast 
  • On the perceiving risk from the lens of our parents  

If you enjoyed today’s conversation about the intersection of work and Asian American identity, please subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and leave us a review to spread the word. We’d really appreciate it!

Learn more about the show at acrossthelinespodcast.com, follow us @acrossthelinespodcast, and subscribe to our newsletter to get the latest updates.

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3 years ago
26 minutes 53 seconds

Across The Lines
S3 Ep 9 | Sriram Krishnan, General Partner @ Andreessen Horowitz, On Rebelling Within A Conformist Culture

Sriram Krishnan is a General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz, investing in early-stage startups. He is also a social media product veteran who previously held leadership roles at Twitter, Snap, and Facebook. Along with his wife Aarthi Ramamurthy, he hosts the "Good Time Show" on Clubhouse which covers interesting people in the world of technology, sports, and entertainment. He also publishes "The Observer Effect".

In this episode we spoke with Sriram about the following:

  • How he navigated being a rebel in a conformist culture
  • What he learned working alongside Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey
  • Why he believes creating content and building a personal brand online is an infinite game

If you enjoyed today’s conversation about the intersection of work and Asian American identity, please subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and leave us a review to spread the word. We’d really appreciate it!

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3 years ago
42 minutes 46 seconds

Across The Lines
S3 Ep 8 | Sandro Roco, Founder & CEO @ Sanzo, On Reframing Risk

Sandro Roco is the Founder & CEO of Sanzo, the 1st Asian Inspired sparkling water made with real fruit and no sugar. Prior to founding Sanzo, Sandro spent 5 years as head of growth and then chief-of-staff at Bombfell, a twice venture-backed personal styling service for men. He previously worked in investment banking at J.P. Morgan and as a nuclear power engineer for Exelon.

Sandro is also a board member and founding member of Naturally New York, which brings people, products and passion together to strengthen and build the New York natural products community.

In this episode, we spoke with Sandro about:

  • Why the biggest thing he learned in his twenties was how to reframe risk
  • How he thinks about the idea of authenticity for Sanzo
  • Why it’s detrimental for founders to be massive generalists when trying to build a successful startup

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3 years ago
30 minutes 6 seconds

Across The Lines
S3 Ep 7 | Neha Sampat, Founder & CEO @ Contentstack, On The Importance Of Resilience

Neha is the CEO and Founder of Contentstack, a platform adopted by brands including Best Buy, Chase, Miami HEAT, Shell, and Walmart to manage their content experience. Previously, Neha was the Founder and CEO of Built.io, which was acquired by Software AG in September 2018. Alongside her work with Contentstack, Neha is the Host of the Dreammakers, a podcast that hosts conversations between trailblazing female leaders.

In this episode, we spoke with Neha about:

  • Why she thinks resilience is the most important trait for entrepreneurs
  • How helping others helped her develop the confidence to overcome setbacks
  • Changing her subconscious thinking to not allow herself to feel like an imposter

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If you enjoyed today’s conversation about the intersection of work and Asian American identity, please subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and leave us a review to spread the word. We’d really appreciate it!

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3 years ago
28 minutes 34 seconds

Across The Lines
S3 Ep 6 | Neeracha Taychakhoonavudh, EVP @ Salesforce, on Asking For What You Want

Neeracha Taychakhoonavudh is the Executive Vice President of Global Success and Strategy at Salesforce, focused on creating sustainable customer success. Neeracha also serves as Executive Advisor for the Salesforce Women’s Network and is the executive sponsor for Asiapacforce, the employee group for members of Asia-Pacific origin and their allies.

Before joining Salesforce in 2009, Neeracha held various leadership roles at Oracle. She currently also serves as a board member for both the Girl Scouts of Northern California and for Safe & Sound, a San Francisco nonprofit focused on the eradication of child abuse.

In this episode we spoke with Neeracha about the following:

  • How growing up as the oldest daughter of Thai immigrants impacted how she showed up in the workplace early in her career
  • Why one of the best pieces of advice she received was to state her own needs and ask for what she wants
  • How she code switches when she’s doing business in the US versus in Asia

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If you enjoyed today’s conversation about the intersection of work and Asian American identity, please subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and leave us a review to spread the word. We’d really appreciate it!

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3 years ago
33 minutes 34 seconds

Across The Lines
S3 Ep 5 | Jessica Chen, Founder & CEO @ Soulcast Media, on Discovering Confidence Through Humility

Jessica is the Founder and CEO of Soulcast Media, a business communications agency, where she provides high-touch strategies to elevate people's speaking and authority.

Prior to starting Soulcast Media, Jessica was a broadcast television journalist. She has been awarded an Emmy-Award for her work at ABC 10News and multiple Associated Press Awards. Jessica is also a top LinkedIn Learning Instructor where her communications courses have been watched by over 1 million learners.

In this episode we spoke with Jessica about the following:

  • Defining humility for herself in order to become a more confident and effective communicator
  • How being one of the only Asian American women discussing communications gave her the energy and courage to found Soulcast Media
  • How the primary communication challenges she coaches her clients on varies based on cultural background

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3 years ago
29 minutes 2 seconds

Across The Lines
S3 Ep 4 | Eric Chan, CFO @ LA Clippers, on Developing Trust By Sharing Weaknesses

Eric currently serves as the CFO for the LA Clippers, where he leads the organization’s financial operations, including establishing and implementing a long-range financial strategy, policies, and goals and leading financial project management for all Clipper's operations.

Before joining the Clippers, Eric served as CFO for The Bouqs Company and Loot Crate, where he received the Los Angeles Business Journal CFO Rising Star Award. Eric also previously served as the Senior Vice President of Finance at Mattel Inc., where he oversaw financial and operational matters across brands such as Barbie, Hot Wheels, Fisher-Price, and American Girl.

In this episode we spoke with Eric about the following:

  • Why the notion of never showing others your weakness was one of the biggest things he had to unlearn
  • How a references check from someone he had previously let go helped him land a job as the CFO of the Clippers
  • Why he transitioned from diminishing his Asian identity to embracing and leaning into it in his professional life

If you enjoyed today’s conversation about the intersection of work and Asian American identity, please subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and leave us a review to spread the word. We’d really appreciate it!

Learn more about the show at acrossthelinespodcast.com and follow us @acrossthelinespodcast to get the latest updates.

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4 years ago
29 minutes 59 seconds

Across The Lines
S3 Ep 3 | Dave Liu, Founder & CEO @ Liucrative Endeavors, on Lessons from 3 Decades on Wall Street

Dave is currently the CEO of Liucrative Endeavors, a strategic consulting and investment firm to high-growth companies. He previously spent almost 25 years at Jefferies, where he progressed from Analyst to Managing Director, co-running all Digital Media and Internet investment banking activities.

Dave is also an artist and writer who publishes a career advice column called “Breaking Bamboo,” and a cartoon series called “The ABC Life.” Dave recently published a book, The Way of the Wall Street Warrior, a humorous and irreverent guide where he captures the lessons he’s learned about conquering the corporate game from his time on Wall Street.

In this episode we spoke with Dave about the following:

  • Experiences early in his career that compelled him to unlearn some of the Confucian values he grew up with
  • How behavioral economics, and prospect theory in particular, influenced how he approaches his career
  • Why thinking about himself as a unique durable good helped him advance to Managing Director at Jefferies

If you enjoyed today’s conversation about the intersection of work and Asian American identity, please subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and leave us a review to spread the word. We’d really appreciate it!

Learn more about the show at acrossthelinespodcast.com and follow us @acrossthelinespodcast to get the latest updates.

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4 years ago
34 minutes 24 seconds

Across The Lines
S3 Ep2 | Nick Mehta, CEO @ Gainsight, on The Power of "And"

Nick Mehta is the CEO of Gainsight, the leading Customer Success company. Prior to Gainsight, Nick was the CEO of LiveOffice, where he led the Inc. 5000 company’s profitable growth and successful sale to Symantec. He is also the co-author of Customer Success: How Innovative Companies Are Reducing Churn and Growing Recurring Revenue. Nick has been named one of the Top CEOs of 2018 by Comparably, was a finalist for EY’s Entrepreneur of the Year, and holds one of the highest Glassdoor approval ratings for CEOs.

In this episode we spoke with Nick about the following:

  • The story of why he goes by “Nick” instead of “Nikhil”
  • Having his visible identity be represented in tech but not feeling like he completely belonged
  • Why going through similar experiences is an antidote to loneliness

If you enjoyed today’s conversation about the intersection of work and Asian American identity, please subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and leave us a review to spread the word. We’d really appreciate it!

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4 years ago
33 minutes 27 seconds

Across The Lines
S3 Ep1 | Debby Soo, CEO @ Opentable, on Understanding the Structure You Operate Within

Debby currently serves as the CEO of Opentable. She stepped into her role in August 2020, during the height of the Covid-19 pandemic.

Previously, Debby spent the past 10+ years at KAYAK, where she joined as an intern and spent many years building up KAYAK’s international presence, from launching in 30+ countries to serving as the GM of the APAC business. Most recently, she was the Chief Commercial Officer at KAYAK and OpenTable, responsible for P&L ownership and revenue-generating activities.

In this episode we spoke with Debby about the following:

  • How she navigates feelings of “otherness” that manifest in both her personal and professional life
  • Why it’s important for people to recognize the structure or paradigm they’re working within and learn how to successfully operate within or not be in them
  • Why she believes there are no wrong turns, especially early in your career

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Episode resources:

  • Debby's LinkedIn Profile
  • Debby's LinkedIn post against AAPI hate

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If you enjoyed today’s conversation about the intersection of work and Asian American identity, please subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and leave us a review to spread the word. We’d really appreciate it!

Learn more about the show at acrossthelinespodcast.com and follow us @acrossthelinespodcast to get the latest updates.

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4 years ago
28 minutes 1 second

Across The Lines
S2 Ep 13 | Career Advice Compilation

This week we’re excited to share our second season career advice compilation. In our episodes, we ask our guests “what is one piece of advice you would give to your younger self” or its close cousin “what was something you did well early in your career”.

There were so many gems in those answers, and we wanted to share quick hits that you can incorporate into your own career. You'll hear from Christine, Brian, Joseph, Seema, and Dave, who are several of our wonderful second-season guests.

Angie & Jay

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Episode resources:

  • Christine's Episode (link)
  • Brian's Episode (link)
  • Seema's Episode (link)
  • Ajay's Episode (link)
  • Dave's Episode (link)

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If you enjoyed today’s conversation about the intersection of work and Asian American identity, please subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and leave us a review to spread the word. We’d really appreciate it!

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4 years ago
10 minutes 42 seconds

Across The Lines
S2 Ep 12 | Angie, Jay & Ankita Reflect On Season Two

In this episode, we’ll be reflecting on our second season! Creating and building this podcast has been such an insightful and rewarding journey. In this week's episode, our team reflects on the joys, challenges, and learnings of Season 2. We'll be speaking about the following:

  • What we wanted to be when we grew up  
  • Our reflections from our private guest happy hour 
  • Why you should focus on the input of the work you're doing rather than optimizing only for the outcome 
  • The nuances of external and internal validation early in your career 
  • How we transitioned from the initial excitement of starting our podcast to creating a consistent process to scale it 

If you enjoyed today’s conversation about the intersection of work and Asian American identity, please subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and leave us a review to spread the word. We’d really appreciate it!

Learn more about the show at acrossthelinespodcast.com, follow us @acrossthelinespodcast, and subscribe to our newsletter to get the latest updates.

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4 years ago
25 minutes 8 seconds

Across The Lines
S2 Ep 11 | Brian Rumao, Managing Director @ Next Play Ventures and Chief of Staff @ LinkedIn, on Compounding Wisdom, Trust, and Love

Brian Rumao is currently Managing Director at Next Play Ventures and VP, Chief of Staff to the Executive Chairman at LinkedIn. At Next Play Ventures, Brian works with Founding Partner Jeff Weiner to coach and invest in entrepreneurial leaders building world-class, purpose-driven organizations. Previously, Brian spent over six years working alongside the executive team to manage cross-functional strategic and operational initiatives as Chief of Staff to the CEO of LinkedIn. During this time, he led post-acquisition integration with Microsoft and launched and managed the Economic Graph team. Previously Brian was a Manager on the Business Operations team at LinkedIn and a consultant at McKinsey & Company.

In this episode we spoke with Brian about the following:

  • How he developed his personal mission statement, which is to compound wisdom, trust, and love
  • How separating what he should do from what he wanted to do showed him that he didn’t want to become a CEO
  • Why investing in long-term professional relationships and managing ego helps you become more comfortable with your career decisions

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Episode resources:

Brian’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianrumao/

Brian’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/brianrumao

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If you enjoyed today’s conversation about the intersection of work and Asian American identity, please subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and leave us a review to spread the word. We’d really appreciate it!

Learn more about the show at acrossthelinespodcast.com and follow us @acrossthelinespodcast to get the latest updates.

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4 years ago
33 minutes 58 seconds

Across The Lines
S2 Ep 10 | Seema Kumar, Chief Marketing Officer @ New Relic, on Choosing Vulnerability over Perfection

Seema Kumar is the CMO of New Relic, the leading observability platform that helps engineering teams improve the usability of their software. Prior to New Relic, Seema spent 18+ years leading product marketing, brand, events, and demand generation at companies like ServiceChannel and Salesforce.

In this episode we spoke with Seema about:

  • Why she tried to fit into the model minority stereotype while growing up
  • How she learned to embrace vulnerability as a leadership superpower by letting go of the focus on external perception she was raised with
  • How she shifted from a fixed mindset to a growth mindset

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Episode resources:

Seema’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seemaxkumar/

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Learn more about the show at acrossthelinespodcast.com and follow us @acrossthelinespodcast to get the latest updates.

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4 years ago
29 minutes 2 seconds

Across The Lines
S2 Ep 9 | Wes Kao, Co-Founder @ Maven, on Turning Bugs into Features

Wes Kao is a Co-Founder of Maven, a platform that enables anyone to build a cohort-based course and deliver an incredible student experience at scale. Prior to founding Maven, Wes co-founded the altMBA, where she designed the program’s coaching system, grew the community from zero to 550 cities in 45 countries in three years, and built a team of 40 people. Wes is a thought leader in building cohort-based courses and frequently writes about marketing, online courses, and rigorous thinking on her blog.

In this episode we spoke with Wes about the following:

  • Choosing to play games you can win by turning features into bugs
  • The mental load created by the narrow range of motion Asian Americans, women, and other minorities are afforded
  • Learning to be comfortable taking up space and embracing productive conflict in the workplace

Episode resources:

  • Wes's Twitter: https://twitter.com/wes_kao
  • Wes's website: https://www.weskao.com/

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4 years ago
33 minutes 15 seconds

Across The Lines
S2 Ep 8 | Eric Kim, Co-Founder and Managing Partner @ Goodwater Capital, On Finding Purpose Through Serving Others

Eric is the Co-Founder and Managing Partner at Goodwater Capital. Goodwater is a venture fund founded in 2014 and manages over $1.1B across its funds. They were early inventors in companies like Musical.ly, Coupang, and Kakao; all massive exits for the firm. Before Goodwater, Eric was a Managing Director at Maverick Capital, and a Business Analyst at McKinsey.

In this episode we spoke with Eric about the following:

  • Unlearning the association between achievement, acceptance, and self-worth
  • Raising capital for his firm, Goodwater, one of the few venture capital firms founded and led by Asian Americans
  • Why it’s more important now than ever for Asian Americans to serve their community rather than prove their worth through achievement

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Episode resources:

  • Eric’s post supporting the AAPI community: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6778472588139204608/
  • Eric’s LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erickim37/

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4 years ago
33 minutes 19 seconds

Across The Lines
S2 Ep 7 | Gokul Rajaram, Product Executive @ Doordash, on Being Comfortable with Ambiguity

Gokul Rajaram serves on the executive board at Doordash and is also a Board Member of Coinbase, Pinterest, Trade Desk and others. Gokul’s career has spanned multiple iconic companies including Facebook, Square, and Google, where he helped build Google AdSense from the ground up. Gokul is viewed by many in his network as the most helpful and humble person they’ve worked with, traits that shone through in our conversation with him.

In this episode we spoke with Gokul about the following:

  • His belief in generously offering help, and why it’s actually “selfish to be selfless”
  • Shifting from a paradigm of solving problems to one of identifying the right problems to solve
  • Why all good leaders need to be both “in the clouds and in the dirt”, and how his life experiences impacted this view

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Episode resources:

  • Gokul’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/gokulr
  • Gokul’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gokulrajaram1/

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If you enjoyed today’s conversation about the intersection of work and Asian American identity, please subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts and leave us a review to spread the word. We’d really appreciate it!

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4 years ago
28 minutes 28 seconds

Across The Lines
S2 Ep 6 | Casual Conversations on Unique Paths To Leadership

This week we’re excited to share our third community event with our dear friends at LinkedIn. In partnership with the LinkedIn Asian Alliance (LIAA), we hosted three of their AAPI leaders to discuss their unique paths to leadership. In this discussion, you’ll hear from Connie Chan Wang the Senior Director of Global Brand Marketing, Jen Weedn the Vice President of Business Development, and Brian Rumao the Chief of Staff the Executive Chairman, Jeff Weiner.

In this podcast we spoke about the following:

  • Having tough conversations with family about unconventional career decisions
  • How the need for financial stability as a child of immigrants can influence career goals 
  • Finding and honoring your true north while advancing your career in a non-linear way

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Episode resources:

  • Connie’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/conniechanwang/
  • Jen’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferyangweedn/
  • Brian’s LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianrumao/

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4 years ago
49 minutes 25 seconds

Across The Lines
S2 Ep 5 | Dave Lu, Co-Founder at Pared and Managing Partner at Hyphen Capital, on Building Your Own House

Dave Lu is the Founder and Managing Partner of Hyphen Capital, a syndicate that invests in pre-seed companies founded by Asian Americans. He is also a seasoned operator (ex Yahoo, eBay, Cisco) and a serial entrepreneur who co-founded Pared (staffing marketplace for the restaurant industry) and FanPop (bootstrapped entertainment website with 35M+ monthly visitors). Dave is a steadfast advocate of Asian American entrepreneurship and recently rallied the community around an initiative to publish an open letter in the WSJ in response to an uptick in violence against the AAPI community.

In this episode we spoke with Dave about the following:

  • Conflating what he thought his parents wanted for his career with what he truly wanted, and how he broke out of that thinking to start his own company
  • Why it’s crucial for Asian American leaders to advocate for themselves and “have more swag”
  • Encouraging the next generation of AAPI entrepreneurs to overcome the bamboo ceiling by building their own houses

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Episode resources:

  • Hyphen Capital: https://www.linkedin.com/company/hyphencap/
  • Dave's LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davelu/
  • The $10M commitment to support AAPI organizations: https://www.kqed.org/news/11867492/thousands-of-business-leaders-commit-10m-to-aapi-organizations-fighting-racism

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Learn more about the show at acrossthelinespodcast.com and follow us @acrossthelinespodcast to get the latest updates.

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4 years ago
32 minutes 51 seconds

Across The Lines
Across The Lines is a podcast that highlights the stories of Pan Asian American leaders and explores the intersection of their personal and professional journeys. Our vision is to inspire and empower the next generation of leaders through candid conversations about the confluence of identity and work.