Welcome to the latest episode of the Zero Hour podcast and your host today is Karla Reffold. We are joined by Greg Van Der Gaast. Starting as one of the most notorious hackers of the 1990's having been involved in the largest mass hack of the time and setting off an international incident after hacking into a nuclear weapons facility, Greg has over two decades of technical, management, and leadership experience in Information Security. A frequent speaker about bringing visibility, care, and accountability to the Information Security industry and breaking out of today's reactive status quo, he is an expert in building efficient and effective InfoSec organisations by enabling leadership, addressing root causes, and harnessing human potential. Key Minutes: 09:30 - How do security leaders do better? 15:40 - Understanding the board 21:10 - How to meet the job description? 33:43 - The vendor landscape 44:10 - Ten Quick Fire Questions You can find Greg at: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregvandergaast/ Re-Thinking InfoSec: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084KJSH92/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0 Follow us:
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