In this episode, we’re joined by Alec Wons — 26 years old, former athlete turned public safety advocate, podcast host, and author. We talk about what most people avoid: burnout, doubt, failing forward, and how to lead without a title. Alec shares what it’s like getting doubted for being young, how he found purpose in the middle of burnout, and why mental health in public safety can’t be ignored. From building real trust with your team to finding your “why,” this episode is packed with leadership gold — plus some solid laughs (yes, Crumbl cookies came up). If you’re leading early, leading tired, or leading while figuring it all out — this one’s for you.