168. Family Therapy in the Age of Estrangement with Lisa Mustard, LMFT

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You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist

Stephanie Winn

185 episodes

2 days ago

You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist intimately explores the human experience while critiquing the state of the counseling profession as it yields to cultural madness. Your host, Stephanie Winn, distills years of wisdom gained from her practice as a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist as she pivots away from treating patients, and toward the question of how to apply psychology to the novel dilemmas of the 21st century. What does ethical mental health care look like in a normless age, as our moral compasses spin in search of true north? How can therapists treat patients under pressure to affirm everything from the notion of gender identity to assisted suicide? Stephanie invites heretical, free-thinking guests from many walks of life, including current and former therapists, medical professionals, writers, researchers, and people with unique lived experience, such as detransitioners. Curious about many things, Stephanie’s interdisciplinary psychological lens investigates challenging social issues and inspires transformation in the self, relationships, and society. Pick up a torch to illuminate the dark night and join us on this journey through the inner wilderness. *ISSUES LISTENING ON SPOTIFY* - If you notice some episodes missing from Spotify, you can find them on any other platform. New episodes are released every Monday, and all are present in numerical order, so you should always see an episode that has been released within the past week, followed by episodes in descending numerical order without any missing numbers. Spotify has a backwards and archaic system for flagging copyrighted content for removal. This podcast has a license to use its theme song, Half Awake by Joey Pecoraro, but Spotify's system keeps removing it anyway, and demands that podcast creators manually appeal the removal for every episode. This is obviously ridiculous. Spotify needs to get it together.

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168. Family Therapy in the Age of Estrangement with Lisa Mustard, LMFT

You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist

1 hour 12 minutes

4 months ago

168. Family Therapy in the Age of Estrangement with Lisa Mustard, LMFT

In this episode, I sit down with Lisa Mustard, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and life coach, to delve into the complexities of family dynamics and the evolving landscape of therapy. We explore the alarming trend of family estrangement, particularly among young adults who are cutting ties with their parents, often leaving those parents bewildered despite having provided loving upbringings. Lisa shares her insights from the therapy room, highlighting how political stress and anxiety are further straining familial relationships, making it increasingly difficult for families to engage in constructive conversations.

We also discuss Lisa's innovative approach to continuing education for therapists through her podcourses, which combine podcasting with self-study content. This affordable and accessible method allows therapists to earn continuing education credits while engaging with relevant topics. As we navigate the conversation, we touch on the lack of resources for blended families and the need for more focus on pressing issues that affect modern marriages and families.

Throughout our discussion, we reflect on the importance of resilience, the impact of parenting styles, and the necessity of instilling values in children. We question how societal shifts have influenced therapy practices and the implications for future generations. Join us as we unpack these critical themes and consider what it means to foster healthy relationships in today's world.

Lisa Mustard is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Life Coach in South Carolina, host of The Therapy Show with Lisa Mustard, and creator of continuing education for therapists. While these resources weren’t mentioned during the episode, Lisa has created two powerful tools to help therapists and coaches navigate politically charged sessions with greater confidence and ease:

Coping with Political Stress eBook & Workbook: This 62-page guide is packed with reflection exercises, grounding practices, and strategies to help you manage media consumption and reconnect with your values. You can edit the ebook workbook (through Canva) with your branding and share with your clients.

Not a therapist but want the ebook workbook, click HERE (pdf download only, not editable).

Deep-Dive Therapist Conversation Framework (Printable PDF) Navigating Politics in Therapy Without Taking Sides: For my fellow therapists, this printable guide includes 97 essential questions to help you navigate political conversations in sessions with compassion and without taking sides.

00:00 Start

[00:00:10] Family estrangement in modern times.

[00:04:10] Introduction to gender dysphoria.

[00:09:05] AAMFT's focus on transgender resources.

[00:13:40] Family estrangement and therapy.

[00:14:24] Family estrangement and politics.

[00:18:15] Estrangement in family relationships.

[00:24:56] Struggles in affluent parenting.

[00:27:08] Parental values and child rebellion.

[00:31:20] Child of divorce experiences.

[00:35:06] Personal growth through therapy.

[00:37:36] Therapy and self-reflection.

[00:41:18] Future self and values.

[00:46:23] Neuroplasticity and personal growth.

[00:49:07] Emotional health and relationships.

[00:54:15] Family therapy's declining relevance.

[00:58:16] Military concerns about therapy confidentiality.

[01:02:07] Therapy vs. Coaching Distinctions.

[01:06:46] Coaching advice for therapists.

[01:09:18] Therapy growth and therapist fit.

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