Summary In this engaging conversation, Ocelot, an underground rapper, shares his unique journey from Michigan to Utah, discussing the challenges and triumphs he faced in building his music career. He emphasizes the importance of networking, authenticity, and passion over fame in the music industry. Ocelot reflects on his collaborations with iconic bands like KMFDM and Limp Bizkit, and how these experiences shaped his artistic identity. He also highlights his current projects, including the rap group Street Sweepers and the new metal band Lobster Knockout, showcasing his versatility as an artist and his commitment to creating meaningful music. Sound Bites "I can take the crown here.""I just wanted to do the art.""I create music to perform it." Takeaways Ocelot's journey began in Michigan and evolved in Utah.Networking is crucial in the music industry.Staying true to oneself is key to authenticity.Overcoming personal challenges can fuel creativity.Collaborations can lead to unexpected opportunities.The importance of passion over fame in music.Creating music is about connection and community.Ocelot emphasizes the significance of family in his life.The evolution of music styles can lead to new projects.Success is defined by personal fulfillment, not just fame. Keywords Ocelot, underground rapper, hip hop, KMFDM, Limp Bizkit, music career, Utah, collaborations, motivation, authenticity