This week Anaru and Taryn delve further into his past life and examine exactly what it means when he says he is a recovering racist. They kōrero about some important hui happening around the motu, and reflect on the noticeable changes in the collective community stance on Māori issues. Ahead of next week's episode, where they kōrero with someone against Māori wards, the duo discuss some conscious and unconscious reasons why people might not vibe with Māori having representation on councils.