Interview recorded - 4th of November, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Michael Green. Michael is the portfolio manager & chief strategist of Simplify. During our conversation we spoke about his outlook on the economy, the government shutdown, next FED chair, tariffs, geopolitics and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction1:45 - Outlook on the economy?4:35 - Government shutdown6:03 - Credit spreads increasing?8:39 - FED actions10:17 - Next FED chair?13:15 - Trump communications14:37 -Tariffs18:05 - Capital flight19:12 - Geopolitical play23:15 - Chinese missteps24:55 - Shift of the US Empire27:30 - Political institutions29:28 - Strategic investments31:55 - One message to takeaway from conversation?Michael has been a student of markets and market structure, for nearly 30 years. His proprietary research into the shift from actively managed portfolios and investment funds to systematic passive investment strategies has been presented to the Federal Reserve, the BIS, the IMF and numerous other industry groups and associations.Michael joined Simplify in April 2021 after serving as Chief Strategist and Portfolio Manager for Logica Capital Advisers, LLC. Prior to Logica, Michael managed macro strategies at Thiel Macro, LLC, an investment firm that manages the personal capital of Peter Thiel. Prior to Thiel, Michael founded Ice Farm Capital, a discretionary global macro hedge fund seeded by Soros Fund Management. From 2006-2014, Michael founded and managed the New York office of Canyon Capital Advisors, a $23B multi-strategy hedge fund based in Los Angeles, CA, where he established their global macro strategies, managing in excess of $5B of exposure across equity, credit, FX, commodity and derivative markets.In addition to his work as a market theorist and portfolio manager, Michael has been noted for his work as a public speaker and financial media participant. He is a graduate of the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania and a CFA holder.Michael Green - Substack - https://www.yesigiveafig.com/Twitter - https://twitter.com/profplum99LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-green-9a15142/Simplify - https://www.simplify.us/WTFinance -Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/wtfinancee/Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/67rpmjG92PNBW0doLyPvfniTunes - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/wtfinance/id1554934665?uo=4Twitter - https://twitter.com/AnthonyFatseasThumbnail image from - https://finance.yahoo.com/video/3-drivers-behind-mondays-market-133332442.html