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Write Your Screenplay Podcast
Jacob Krueger
200 episodes
17 hours ago
Rather than looking at movies in terms of "two thumbs up" or "two thumbs down" Award Winning Screenwriter Jacob Krueger discusses what you can learn from them as a screenwriter. He looks at good movies, bad movies, movies we love, and movies we hate, exploring how they were built, and how you can apply those lessons to your own writing. More information and full archives at WriteYourScreenplay.com
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Rather than looking at movies in terms of "two thumbs up" or "two thumbs down" Award Winning Screenwriter Jacob Krueger discusses what you can learn from them as a screenwriter. He looks at good movies, bad movies, movies we love, and movies we hate, exploring how they were built, and how you can apply those lessons to your own writing. More information and full archives at WriteYourScreenplay.com
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Nickel Boys and Shawshank Redemption: Primary and Secondary Structure
Write Your Screenplay Podcast
47 minutes
6 months ago
Nickel Boys and Shawshank Redemption: Primary and Secondary Structure

























In this episode, Jacob Krueger explores the difference between primary and secondary structure—and how understanding the relationship between them can transform your screenwriting. Using Shawshank Redemption and Nickel Boys as case studies, Jacob shows how both films use a nearly identical core structure to tell vastly different stories, each built around the same foundational dynamic: a hopeful protagonist changing the life of a more cynical friend.



Listeners will learn how Frank Darabont’s secondary structure choices in Shawshank—including misdirection, red herrings, and hidden motivations—disguise a plot that would otherwise feel predictable. Then, through Nickel Boys, Jacob reveals how Ramell Ross and Joslyn Barnes take the same narrative scaffolding and rewire it to land an emotionally devastating twist ending, using secondary structure not just to entertain, but to deliver a powerful thematic punch.



Listeners will learn:




* What primary and secondary structure are—and why they must work together



* Why Shawshank Redemption works, even when you know it ends with a prison escape



* How to use audience expectations to shape surprise and emotional impact



* Why genre promises matter—and how to subvert them without breaking trust



* How Nickel Boys mirrors Shawshank—and then flips its outcome



* How POV and delayed reveals can elevate a twist ending



* Why tricking your audience only works when it deepens your theme



* How to build structure from character—not from formula



* What “seeing through the character’s eyes” really means



* How to build your screenplay’s external shape without losing emotional truth




Whether you're writing a twist ending, adapting historical material, or just trying to avoid cliché, this episode will help you ground your structure in character—and make every surprise truly land.









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Write Your Screenplay Podcast
Rather than looking at movies in terms of "two thumbs up" or "two thumbs down" Award Winning Screenwriter Jacob Krueger discusses what you can learn from them as a screenwriter. He looks at good movies, bad movies, movies we love, and movies we hate, exploring how they were built, and how you can apply those lessons to your own writing. More information and full archives at WriteYourScreenplay.com