Welcome friend of the pod, Eli Irvin! Eli and Gabriel have known each other for many years, and when I (Megan) met him at the Wild Goose Festival last year, I knew we were going to be friends! Eli is an Episcopalian and has devoted his life to loving people well, particularly those in the LGBTQ+ community. We talked about the good and bad of the church, what it really means to love people well, and how love and Christianity are meant to be inefficient. 

This conversation felt like sitting on a front porch with a couple of southern friends and a glass of lemonade (or bourbon ;) ). It was such a breath of fresh air, and I know you're going to love Eli and be thinking about his words for quite a while. 

Follow Eli on Tiktok and Instagram @irvinwithaneye for theology, Star Trek, and other nerdy fun!