Ever wondered what happens when you trade agency ownership for creative leadership?  In this episode of Workplace Weirdness, host Maya Kadar Kovalsky sits down with Paul McDowall, brand architect, former agency owner & co-founder of ClarkMcDowall, to discuss his unconventional career journey from Liverpool to New York and his transition into leadership at Vault49. Paul shares insights from decades in branding, touching on the challenges of staying culturally relevant without losing brand identity. He opens up about the personal and professional growth that comes from letting go of ego, embracing new roles, and learning from failure. They also explore how to navigate tricky workplace dynamics, including handling conflicting feedback from leadership, weighing the pros and cons of moving into consulting, and recovering gracefully from Zoom call blunders. Tune in to hear reflections on leadership, resilience, and the joy of embracing the weirdness in the workplace! Key Takeaways You don’t have to lead to lead: A creative life can thrive without the title. Ego can be a culture killer; humility and humanity build stronger teams. Your brand’s future is written in its past... Go back to the DNA. Flexibility and authenticity are driving today’s shift toward small consultancies. If you’re stuck between bosses, don’t pick sides: document, clarify, and protect yourself. In This Episode: [00:00] Introduction to Paul McDowall [02:18] Paul’s journey in the creative world [06:00] Lessons from running a business [09:10] The transition from boss to peer [13:29] Paul’s weirdest workplace moment [17:29] Week in Work: Un-bossing yourself [20:32] Freelancer vs. consultant lifestyle [21:09] Flexibility and challenges of small agencies [21:36] Massive shifts in the industry [23:34] Navigating conflicting bosses [23:45] Creating supportive workplaces in education [25:14 ] Listener Question #1: Stuck between feuding bosses [30:31] Listener Question #2: Consulting as a career pivot [36:09] Cringeworthy Question: Job hunting caught on Zoom [39:24] Final thoughts and farewell Notable Quotes [03:02] “You can leave Liverpool, but Liverpool never leaves you.” — Paul McDowall [06:24] “Fear is the biggest thing that holds us back.” — Paul McDowall [07:17] “ Define your authentic self, your own tone of voice. That takes away a lot of the pressure.” — Paul McDowall [08:40] “Ego silos us and it destroys culture.” — Paul McDowall [11:43] “Gut instinct is there for a reason. It's why we think with our stomachs.” — Paul McDowall [12:06] “For a brand to survive, you need to survive in culture.” — Paul McDowall [18:05] “ For many managers who wanna un-boss themselves, letting go of management responsibilities can also be a little bit psychologically challenging.” — Maya Kadar Kovalsky [31:47] “The  hardest question in life is ‘what do I want?’”— Paul McDowall [41:16] “The world doesn't need another asshole. So don't be one.” — Paul McDowall Resources & Links Paul McDowall LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-mcdowall-00b0b11 clarkmcdowall - http://www.clarkmcdowall.com Vault 49 - https://www.vault49.com/ Maya Kadar Kovalsky Website - https://www.mayakadar.com/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mayakadar/ Workplace Weirdness Email: info@workplace-weirdness.com SpeakPipe - http://speakpipe.com/workplaceweirdness Website - http://workplace-weirdness.com Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/workplaceweirdpod/ Mentioned WSJC Article:  Can You 'Unboss' Yourself Without Ruining Your Career?  Disclaimer: The content of this podcast is intended for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as professional, legal, or workplace-specific advice. Listeners are encouraged to seek guidance from qualified professionals for their individual situations.