In this special dual interview, Frans Oudendorp and Harjit Dhaliwal sit down with two powerhouse speakers — Sander Rozemuller and Petri Paavola — to talk about their passion for the community, their current focus areas, and what they’re planning for the Workplace Ninja Summit 2025 in Baden 🇨🇭.

🎯 What’s inside:

• Their motivation for speaking at community-driven events
• The modern workplace and security topics they’re most excited about
• How they aim to inspire the Workplace Ninja community
• Early ideas for their sessions this September
• Encouragement for future speakers thinking about submitting a session

Whether you're attending for the first time or returning for more, this conversation is packed with energy, insight, and inspiration.

📺 Watch the full interview and get ready for #WPNinjaSummit2025!