What's more chaotic than the last day of a week-long stay at a White Lotus? This episode. We really put our poor guest, doctoral candidate & psychotherapist Jess Pomerantz, through the wringer. Like, we know she had fun but also, like, chaos abound. We discuss everything from her work in studying coercive control to conformity to friendship to everthing Mike White got wrong about hospitality professionals (we have a bone to pick with you, my dude).

Put on your headphones and settle in. Lots to ponder with this episode.