Todays in depth discussion about:
This is a discussion on the pessimism of Kevin Geary
https://x.com/andrewhoyer/status/1978963637164220782
Here is thread that started it all
https://x.com/thekevingeary/status/1978853679500276202
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Summary of thread
The X thread starts with Andrew Hoyer (@andrewhoyer) quoting a post from Kevin Geary (@thekevingeary), who argues that the low-code/no-code era is over. Geary claims these tools fail three user groups: impatient laypeople (too hard even if simplified), patient beginners (waste time on proprietary skills instead of transferable ones), and pros (frustrated by limitations). He predicts users of such tools, like simplistic page builders, will be replaced in the AI era, urging people to learn real skills.
Hoyer then polls WordPress/web devs: Are those using page editors or no-code tools at risk of replacement?
Key replies include:
Blake Whittle (@BlakeWhittle7): No—those sticking to outdated methods (e.g., PHP themes) are at higher risk. AI and page builders like Elementor will thrive, balancing pro features with ease for edits.
Hoyer counters: Geary specifically targets no-code users as replaceable, except the top 1% for local business sites.
Kim von Däniken (@KimvonDaniken): Unlikely, as no tool fully translates client needs into sites meeting accessibility, SEO, and best practices.
Ibrahim Sawyer (@ibmswr): Possibly, if they stop evolving.
Ciprian Popescu (@cipriangb): No replacement—everyone adapts, as devs have for 35+ years. “Page builder” devs will persist alongside coders.
Hoyer agrees: Calls it the best take; notes “developer” is used loosely, and he mixes code with builders (e.g., hooks/filters to extend).
Ed Muntz (@muntzdesign): Simply “Nah.”
Warren Laine-Naida (@WarrenLNaida): In 5 years, none of us may be building sites anyway.
Hoyer jokes: We’ll be wealthy and retired?
Dave Bloom (@davebloomdev): No—AI could more easily replace coders than page-builder users. No-code’s popularity shows its value; sites don’t need perfection, and clients don’t care about the tooling UX.
Overall, the thread debates Geary’s pessimism, with most responders pushing back that adaptation and mixed approaches will keep no-code relevant, though evolution is key.
this may or may not work it is about matts comment
https://x.com/photomatt/status/1981709819322216770
Summary of Gearys original post
https://x.com/thekevingeary/status/1978853679500276202
Kevin Geary (@thekevingeary), a WordPress entrepreneur and educator, posted a lengthy critique declaring the “low-code/no-code era” as over, arguing that these tools (including simplistic page builders) fail all potential user groups and leave users unprepared for the AI-driven future. He breaks users into three categories:
Group 1: Impatient laypeople – They abandon tools quickly because nothing can be made simple enough for them.
Group 2: Patient beginners/intermediates – They invest time in proprietary UIs but waste it on non-transferable skills,
