Cassie Hames is a programmer at SAGE Automation who has lived experienced as a professional with impaired vision. She discusses her role at SAGE with host, Michelle Batsas, including the development of the See Me app which enhances public transport accessibility for users with impaired vision, and shares her personal journey proving her detractors wrong by becoming a programmer in the face of discrimination and harassment. This episode explores the intersection of leadership, gender equality, and technological innovation, highlighting the vital importance of inclusive design. Tune in to discover how Cassie's lived experiences have driven her to champion changes that make public transport safer and more accessible for everyone.