Charlotte is joined by South African birth pioneer Theoni Papoutsis to explore conscious birth, postpartum care, and the realities of South Africa’s maternity systems. Together they talk about doulas and independent midwives, liability culture and rising cesarean rates, and why trust and surrender are central to birth. Theoni shares her wisdom on postpartum support, belly binding, closing rituals, and practical tools for labor like breath counting and the yes mantra. This conversation offers both global perspective and personal insight, showing how conscious birth is about more than labor itself, it is about how we care for mothers, families, and communities long after birth.

Find Theoni and her book on Instagram @papoutistheoni