What do you get if you cross poetry with a joke? In this episode I'm joined by Joanna Lee: agent at Curtis Brown, poet, and poetry critic whose work has been featured in the Guardian, LRB, and White Review. We talk about the lack of diversity in poetry criticism, the relationship between humour and tragedy, brevity, and ridiculous metaphors. NB: this was recorded before lockdown, and when I was in a phase of saying that everything I liked was 'omg so silly.' Please forgive me. Wit Lit List: Poetry Therapist by Joe Dunthorne Discipline by Jane Yeh SPAM Zine & Press Three Leaf Press Playing with Playing with Fire by Nasser Hussain by Nasser Hussain The Flea, and the Relic by John Donne To His Coy Mistress by Andrew Marvell Dear Republic by Ilya Kaminsky Novels Someone Who Will Love You in All Your Damaged Glory by Raphael Bob-Wakesberg  Paul Takes the Form of a Mortal Girl by Andrea Lawlor The Black Prince by Iris Murdoch Joanna is on Twitter @joanna_brl. I'm on Twitter @lily_lindon. I'm on Instagram @bookymcbookface. Omg so silly, Lily