Bert van Bergen was born in Rotterdam, the Netherlands in 1944 at the tail end of the second world war. After migrating to Australia, was raised in a catholic family with a catholic education but was agnostic until he met some Christians that changed his life. Bert joins Wilderness Conversations to share his story of business ventures, his spiritual journey from Catholicism to becoming a Christadelphian, and the impact of family tragedies on his faith and outlook on life. Bert reflects on the gift of the gospel that he holds so dear. Bert is a member of the Golden Grove Christadelphian church or ecclesia in Adelaide, Australia.