This week Ben and Ram sit down with Leila Mae Thompson (@lmtweet), an incredible artist and rug-maker to talk about her creative journey, the double edge of going viral, how to weigh a frog, the ecosystems of the Florida Everglades, secret projects, switching gears, burnout, the letter “I”, fulfilling a million orders, shipping, carving your own educational path, terrible DM intros, influential teachers along the way, designing for print, and more!

As always, our theme music is brought to you by the great @computrnerd.

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