What if the “insider knowledge” driving today’s far-right movements isn’t Christian at all? Dr. Joan Braune joins us to expose how figures like Steve Bannon twist ancient Roman myths about history into pseudo-intellectual narratives of power. These ideas get passed off as “tradition,” but as Joan shows, they’re not Catholic, not Christian—and they’re fueling the dangerous rise of fascism and Christian nationalism in America today.

Together, we unpack how fascism operates not as a fringe phenomenon but as a social movement deeply tied to existing power structures. Joan explains why it can’t be defeated through policing or elections alone, but only through strong, organized resistance. Along the way, we connect her analysis to our own work on High Control Catholicism and the ways authoritarian religion manipulates communities under the guise of faith.