Pro 13:24 ISV Whoever does not discipline his son hates him, but whoever loves him is diligent to correct him. Pro 22:6 KJV Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.(In his way meaning you have to cultivate your children find out what your children have interest in. That's the pressure of next living vicariously through your child from a place from something that wasn't afforded to you. If you are not careful you will lose your child and they will lose their identity because of your frustrated place and resentment in your life you didn't have that you have to provide for them and you didn't spend time seeing what they want to do so they rebel. Have a firm foundation of respect but let them know it's ok to find their own way and you can help the outcome by not trying to control the narrative. Your kid might not want to go to college after high-school or at all are you gonna be OK with that? Pro 3:11-12 ISV 11 My son, do not reject the LORD’s discipline, and do not despise his correction, 12 because the LORD corrects the person he loves, just as a father corrects the son he delights in. Heb 12:6-8 ISV 6 For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and he punishes every son he accepts.” 7 What you endure disciplines you: God is treating you as sons. Is there a son whom his father does not discipline? 8 Now if you are without any discipline, in which all sons share, then you are illegitimate and not God’s sons. Stay in a child's place what does that mean? I've heard it mean stay out of Grow folks business you're to grown right now and your mouth is smart. But Jesus said a little child shall led them. He also said that unless you are like one these children (meek. Humble, pure) you won't see the Kingdom of heaven. So maybe we need to normalize listening to your children watching them around people maybe God has given them insight because you missed it and is trying to work patience in your through your children. But because you have bills and you doing things like it's always been done like your granny that wooped your mom and your mom that wooped you that's all you know. Take time and talk to your children and let them express themselves and correct them but don't discipline them out of your confusion and make them confused and then when trouble comes their way they won't talk to you because you forced them to hide and or suppress their emotions so they drink, smoke, sex, fight it away instead of dealing with it.