Everyone loves the idea of starting a church… until the calling gets complicated. 😅 In this episode of When I Heard This, Nate and Pastor Joseph keep it real about what church planting actually looks like — the calling, the chaos, and the cost no one talks about. From emotional exhaustion to unexpected blessings, they unpack how obedience can feel messy, meaningful, and absolutely worth it. 👉 In this episode: • The fine line between calling and burnout • What really goes into planting a church (beyond Sunday mornings) • Why obedience sometimes looks like chaos • How to stay faithful when the cost feels high 🎧 Listen now and join the conversation that every church planter (or anyone who’s ever said “we should start a church!”) needs to hear. ⸻ Watch the video version: https://youtu.be/ccNKEs3hAM4 Our website: https://wheniheardthispodcast.com/link-in-bio/ Follow us: • Locals & X @wheniheardthis • Facebook & Instagram @wheniheardthispodcast ⸻ 👍 Follow us on SoundCloud (and your favorite podcast app) ❤️ Like this episode if it hits home 📤 Share it with a friend who’s ever felt called to ministry 🎧 Also available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and all major platforms. ⸻ #WhenIHeardThisPodcast #Faith #Christianity #ChurchPlanting #Ministry #Calling #SpiritualGrowth #ChristianPodcast