In this episode we cover the practice of meditation, exploring its rising popularity and personal significance. We share insights on how meditation has evolved in our lives, the impact of meditation apps like Headspace and Calm, and the broader cultural shifts towards embracing mindfulness. The discussion also touches on the spiritual dimensions of meditation, contrasting Eastern and Western perspectives, and the role of meditation in modern life. Moreover, we reflect on our meditation routines, the challenge of maintaining consistency, and the profound experiences of ego dissolution occasionally facilitated by meditation practices or psychedelic experiences.