My guest on this episode is Phoebe Wang. Phoebe is the author of the poetry collections Admission Requirements and Waking Occupations. Her fiction and nonfiction has appeared in The Globe & Mail, The New Quarterly, Brick, The Unpublished City, and The Unpublished City: Volume II, The Lived City, which she co-edited. Her most recent book is Relative to Wind: On Sailing, Craft, and Community, published by Assembly Press in 2024. Kirkus Reviews called it “a thoughtful, illuminating look at life away from land.”

Phoebe and I talk about the impact of her very first publication, about being edited, right at the start of her career, by one of the country’s best-known and most beloved poets, and about the odd and interesting places that promoting a book about sailing has taken her.

This podcast is produced and hosted by Nathan Whitlock, in partnership with The Walrus.

Music: "simple-hearted thing" by Alex Lukashevsky. Used with permission.

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