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What Comes After What Comes Next
James Shaw
21 episodes
1 month ago
Join James Shaw, New Zealand's Minister for Climate Change and Green Party co-leader, and some of the world's leading thinkers to explore the big ideas about how we solve the climate crisis and renew our economies and societies in a post-pandemic world. 

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Join James Shaw, New Zealand's Minister for Climate Change and Green Party co-leader, and some of the world's leading thinkers to explore the big ideas about how we solve the climate crisis and renew our economies and societies in a post-pandemic world. 

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Politics
News,
Government,
News Commentary
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Why we must listen to indigenous voices with Hindou Oumarou Ibrahim
What Comes After What Comes Next
1 hour 2 minutes 10 seconds
4 years ago
Why we must listen to indigenous voices with Hindou Oumarou Ibrahim

When Hindou Oumarou Ibrahim was a child, Lake Chad in her home country spanned 10,000 km2. Today, because of climate change, it is around a tenth of that size.


As Hindou puts its "climate change is not about our future, it's about our present.”


Hindou is an expert in the adaptation and mitigation of indigenous peoples to climate change. She is a member of the Mbororo pastoralist people in Chad and President of the Association for Indigenous Women and Peoples of Chad (AFPAT). Oumarou Ibrahim is an advocate for the greater inclusion of indigenous people and their knowledge and traditions in the global movement to fight the effects of climate change. 


Soon after we started talking Hindou reminded me that "when you are born an indigenous person, you are born an activist for the environment.” 


On the one hand, this is an upsetting conversation about the impact climate change is having right now on indigenous peoples all over the world. On the other hand, it is an inspiring, hopeful conversation about our capacity to build a better, cleaner, low carbon future.


As always, we'd love to hear your thoughts and feedback at james.shaw@parliament.govt.nz. 


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What Comes After What Comes Next
Join James Shaw, New Zealand's Minister for Climate Change and Green Party co-leader, and some of the world's leading thinkers to explore the big ideas about how we solve the climate crisis and renew our economies and societies in a post-pandemic world. 

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.