We're back! And for this episode we're lucky to welcome the one and only Ben Rhodes onto the show.

Ben spent eight years with President Barack Obama - as a close confidante, speechwriter, national security advisor, and friend.

He was there when the Paris Agreement was signed, and at Obama's side every step of the way towards that historic moment - including the breakthrough with China that ultimately paved the way for the agreement.

We hope you enjoy this one. It's rare to get to speak with someone who has been so close to the highest levels of climate politics.

As always, we'd love to hear your thoughts and feedback at james.shaw@parliament.govt.nz. 

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