In this catch-up episode, Sean and David begin by congratulating their nephew, Caleb, and niece, Lauryn, on graduating from university and another nephew on completing a marathon. David then shares the details of a bizarre Uber ride, discusses the issue of gun violence in Cape Town (David's friend, Clayton, who lives in Ocean View in Cape Town's southern peninsula, was shot and is paralysed as a result), reflects on the chaos in the United States (it has little to do with white South Africans), and explains why it's a huge blow that South Africa may never host the Rugby World Cup again. And no, unlike what Trump's refugees may claim, the decision by World Rugby has nothing to do with any action or inaction by the ANC.