Beloved bestselling author and scientist Brené Brown has spent the past two decades researching courage, vulnerability, shame, and empathy. Her newest book, Atlas of the Heart, draws on that research and provides a map to capture the nuanced language of human emotion. In conversation with Chief Booklover Heather Reisman, Brown explains that the book came together through thousands of interviews and real-life examples. She also shares how new research completely changed how she thinks about humiliation and shame.