Nature has a plan of its own. Are we willing to listen?   In this last part of their conversation, host Abby Starr and Ke’oni Hanalei explore the deep relationship between wellness, nature, and self-awareness. Running is more than movement for Ke’oni. It is meditation, a way to connect with breath and presence. Foraging is not just gathering. It is a conversation with the plants, asking for consent and honoring the exchange. What shifts when we see the natural world as an active participant rather than a resource to control?   The episode also challenges the idea of possession and how attachment fuels destruction. Ke’oni shares insights from the ferns, including a message from Neke, the fern of charisma, which they believe will shape 2025. What if true influence starts with looking inward?   Abby and Ke’oni’s conversation invites reflection on how we engage with nature, our past, and ourselves. It is a reminder to move through life with more presence, gratitude, and respect for the world around us.   Episode Breakdown: 00:00 Introduction 01:23 Running as Meditation 03:15 Experiencing Nature in Hawaii 03:57 Respecting Nature and Plant Medicine 05:01 Ceremony and Plant Potency 06:08 Lessons from Nature and Plants 07:01 Listening to the Natural World 08:48 The Influence of Charisma in 2025 10:06 Looking Inward for Influence 12:00 The Concept of Possession 13:31 Balancing Possession and Sentimentality 15:03 Grief and Completion 17:35 Authenticity and Honesty 19:16 Embracing True Nature 20:25 Confirmation of Ancestral Knowledge 22:32 Importance of Remembering Our Roots 23:19 Closing  24:05 Quickfire Questions   Links Connect with Ke’oni Hanalei: Website: https://www.pohala.net/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pohala_hawaiian_botanicals/   Source & Self: Website: https://source-self.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sourceandself Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sourceandself TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sourceandselfboxes Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm