This is Episode 20 with Miss Nöyd, aka Bente Lorentzen, currently from here in Berlin, Germany. Bente and I talk about finding new ways to approach music from a child like, carefree way. Meaning having fun and not really caring what anyone else thinks. This seems like a pretty good way to approach music in general, to me. We also talk about how playing live is so valuable to writing music and what that's going to look like going forward.