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Wealth Actually
Frazer Rice
190 episodes
2 weeks ago
Interviews with the Next Generation of Experts, Commentators, Entrepreneurs and Creatives in and around wealth and the wealth management industry. From Frazer Rice, noted fiduciary expert, operator of frazerrice.com and author of "Wealth Actually".
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Interviews with the Next Generation of Experts, Commentators, Entrepreneurs and Creatives in and around wealth and the wealth management industry. From Frazer Rice, noted fiduciary expert, operator of frazerrice.com and author of "Wealth Actually".
Show more...
Entrepreneurship
Business,
Investing
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INSIDE THE BEZOS PRE-NUP
Wealth Actually
33 minutes 9 seconds
3 months ago
INSIDE THE BEZOS PRE-NUP
We go inside the the enormity, complication, and notoriety of the BEZOS PRE-NUP AGREEMENT with divorce attorney, MARILYN CHINITZ of BLANK ROME.




https://youtu.be/nMMp6He056Y





https://open.spotify.com/episode/39KMPMRhwGfYbdZVMJHEan?si=36c5c8a927bf4a6f




Outline of the ISSUES INSIDE the BEZOS PRE-NUP




General Concepts



What happens without a pre-nup?



Process for disclosing assets



Previous marriages and those pre/post-nups?



Community vs Equitable Distribution (Does the Pre-Nup contract this away?)



Separate property



Outside trusts?  Estate Planning?



Pre-nup vs ultra high net worth pre-nup



Financial Considerations (and Complication)



Non-Financial- NDA, media activity, scope of negotiations, data and tech issues



Let's go through the General Fact Pattern



High Profile



Asymmetric Net Worths



Kids?



Which state is used for choice of law? Portability? 



How do you make sure this has teeth?  (Coercion penalties)



Spousal support / alimony?



Escalator or sunset clauses?



Disqualifying or  "infidelity" or "weight gain" clauses?



What happens if children?



Other constituencies - charities, businesses, political causes etc 



Integration with estate documents, life insurance, other vehicles



Is there a check-in every five years?



What else can we learn from what is inside the Bezos Pre-Nup?




Transcript



Frazer Rice (00:02.07) - Inside the Bezos Pre-Nup



Welcome aboard, Marilyn.



Marilyn Chinitz (00:04.088)



Thank you, really nice to be here and nice to talk to you about what's inside the Bezos Pre-Nup.



Frazer Rice (00:07.541)



We sort of regaled ourselves with a mutual friend and we're already, I feel like we're already related. That's right. So we're going to talk a little bit about probably one of the highest profile marriages in the world that just happened with the Bezos Sanchez union and get inside the Bezos pre-Nup. But for just for a little bit here, let's talk about what happens in a sort of family law divorce setting.



Marilyn Chinitz (00:13.39)



Your best and glorious buddies are ready.



Frazer Rice (00:35.232)



With general concepts because we're going to be diving into some specifics with the case study here. What happens when something goes wrong and we have a divorce that happens without a prenup?



Marilyn Chinitz (00:46.734)



So it depends what state you're in. If you're in a state like New York, then we have equitable distribution laws. If you're in a state like community property in California, then those laws are very different. So if you have no prenup, and a lot of people don't because they start their marriage with very little assets, and everything that you acquired during your marriage is now subject to a division.



Frazer Rice (00:49.569)



Of course.



Marilyn Chinitz (01:15.918)



And what happens is you start to trace the assets and you look...
Wealth Actually
Interviews with the Next Generation of Experts, Commentators, Entrepreneurs and Creatives in and around wealth and the wealth management industry. From Frazer Rice, noted fiduciary expert, operator of frazerrice.com and author of "Wealth Actually".