In today's episode, Kyle Grieve chats with Jason Donville and Jesse Gamble about their investing philosophy, their emphasis on focusing on growth and value, their evolution from using ROE-focused metrics to the rule of 40 to identify great investing opportunities, how to use the rule of 40 to add high performing businesses to a watchlist, how the market reacts to interest rates, AI impact on the business landscape, and much more! Jason Donville is an award-winning analyst with a distinguished career in Asia and Canada. He previously served as Head of Equity Research at Credit Lyonnais Securities Asia and Research Director at Credit Suisse First Boston, working in Singapore and Jakarta before joining Sprott Securities in Toronto. His research has traditionally focused on identifying high-ROE companies. Jason holds a BA from the Royal Military College of Canada and an MBA from Ivey Business School. Jesse Gamble has worked closely with Jason to manage the DKAM Capital Ideas Fund since 2011. Jesse received an MBA from the Ivey Business School at Western University and a B.Sc. degree from the Dyson School of Economics at Cornell University. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 02:42 - The hidden formula for finding cheap stocks. 07:53 - The secret to spotting a deteriorating moat. 10:45 - How elite investors stay focused in a bear market. 13:37 - The evolution of a winning investment strategy. 27:41 - The untapped goldmine in small-cap stocks. 31:39 - Why the market consistently misprices quality growth. 31:39 - The Rule of 40: your cheat code for finding long-term winners. 36:11 - A playbook for finding 10-bagger stocks. 56:47 - The AI revolution: where the real business impact is happening. 56:47 - Why there’s more cash on the sidelines than ever. And so much more! Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Read DKAM’s Investor Letters here. Listen to my first interview with Jason and Jesse here. Follow Kyle on Twitter and LinkedIn. Email Shawn at shawn@theinvestorspodcast.com to attend our free events in Omaha or visit this page. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, The Intrinsic Value Newsletter. Check out our We Study Billionaires Starter Packs. Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance Tool. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: Netsuite SimpleMining CFI Education Unchained Hardblock Found Fintool The Bitcoin Way Shopify Vanta Onramp PrizePicks TurboTax Fundrise HELP US OUT! Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a rating and review on Spotify! It takes less than 30 seconds, and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it! Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm