We Are Art People is an independent conversation series with artists and people — exploring possibilities for making and being in the world as a creative person.
Bringing together diverse narratives and complex perspectives, our commitment is to facilitate a space of autonomy and resiliency for the artists’ voice. A goal is these conversations will bolster community and provide an open-resource for other creative people, navigating their journey and in relationship with the world.
Located in Brooklyn, New York — our conversation series is facilitated by New York-based artist, Emily Nam.
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We Are Art People is an independent conversation series with artists and people — exploring possibilities for making and being in the world as a creative person.
Bringing together diverse narratives and complex perspectives, our commitment is to facilitate a space of autonomy and resiliency for the artists’ voice. A goal is these conversations will bolster community and provide an open-resource for other creative people, navigating their journey and in relationship with the world.
Located in Brooklyn, New York — our conversation series is facilitated by New York-based artist, Emily Nam.
Say hello 👋 @weareartpeople
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Pascale Gatzen is not someone who you can bind with words. She moves freely across and within spaces of education, pattern making, commoning and emphatic communication. She continues to seek opportunities for and to shape the conditions under which people learn together.
In the '90s, Pascale was a member of a group of fashion designers known as Le Cri Néerlandais (“The Dutch Cry”) including Saskia van Drimmelen, Viktor Horsting, Rolf Snoeren et al. — and the first Dutch designers to present their collections in Paris. Her garments have been included in early editions of Purple Magazine, photographed by Mark Borthwick and presented in spaces of cross-disciplinary dialogue. Alongside a practice of making garments, Pascale’s place in education, aligned on making and situating fashion as an expression of being — has included developing an alternative fashion program at the Parsons School of Design in New York City and she previously led the Fashion Design Master’s program at ArtEZ, Netherlands. Our conversation dances between generative projects Pascale has contributed to; including The Linen Project, a collective endeavor to reintroduce small-scale local flax cultivation to the Netherlands, and a clothing workshop Pascale facilitated with guards at Art Tower Mito, in Japan. Our conversation is interspersed with the acknowledgment of and observing feelings and needs, reflective of Marshall Rosenberg’s teachings of Non-Violent Communication (NVC). Pascale has recognized this practice to be a vital design for human communication, an opportunity to meet each other with empathy and authentic connection.
Pascale makes and wears her clothing.
Links:
The Linen Project https://thelinenproject.online/
Friends of Light https://www.friendsoflight.net/
Art Tower Mito, Japan https://mitoguards.blogspot.com/
Show notes:
"If ‘commoning’ has any meaning, it must be the production of ourselves as a common subject." - Silvia Federici
Intentional communities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_community
Gana Community, Statan Island https://geo.coop/articles/40-years-community
NYCNVC https://www.nycnvc.org/thom-bond
Hannah Arendt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Arendt
Eric Fromm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_Fromm
Pema Chödrön; Comfort Zones youtube.com/watch?v=MH2vfdhGiTM
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