Dive into the world of Fatema Sumar, a policy guru who turned a New Jersey upbringing off Exit 9 into a global career, proving you don't need a law degree to make waves in policy. From her early days at the ACLU tackling drug policy to decoding the bureaucracy of international relations, Fatema believes policy is not just professional—it's deeply personal. Join us as she discusses navigating decision fatigue, the journey of policy-making, and the crucial role of mentorship she wished she'd had. Fatema's story is a masterclass in making the most of every opportunity, whether it's training interns or steering national decisions. Tune in for a candid conversation that gets to the heart of the issues and the power of persistence.