Cardon and Jonah Barnes dive deep into scripture, scholarship, and the culture of LDS academia.The discussion begins playfully as Jonah explores chiasmus—a poetic structure in ancient texts—within the Book of Moses. He highlights a striking pattern between Adam and Eve’s statements after the Fall, jokingly calling it their “epic rap battle.” Adam’s partial chiasmus is countered by Eve’s bold, complete one, centering the doctrine of the “fortunate fall.” Jonah notes this insight hasn’t appeared in scholarly literature, making the discovery all the more thrilling.