In this episode, Call of the Wild's Head of Professional Practice, Dr Barrie Kennard, reflects on his journey from training for the Merchant Navy as a young man to becoming a passionate advocate for effective leadership. He shares how his early career struggles with poor management at BT inspired him to lead differently - with empathy, honesty, and humility.

The conversation explores why Barrie believes leadership is too often overcomplicated, and how he makes complex ideas relatable and practical. Key themes include emotional intelligence, communication, mentoring, and the power of admitting when you’re wrong.

Barrie’s down-to-earth approach and belief in the strength of “ordinariness” have shaped leaders across the UK and beyond. Join us to hear how his positivity and genuine outlook continue to inspire the next generation of leaders.