In this episode of the VulnWise Show, hosts Steve Carter and Scott Kuffer engage with Johnny Shaieb, Chief Architect of Exposure Management at IBM. The conversation delves into the evolution of vulnerability management, the shift towards exposure management, and the importance of asset management in cybersecurity. Johnny shares insights from his extensive experience in the field, discusses the concept of a Risk Operations Center, and highlights the significance of normalizing data for effective vulnerability management. Additionally, he reflects on his academic journey and ongoing research into the history of vulnerability databases and scoring systems.