Mike Benz, a former White House speechwriter and tech policy advisor, discussed his transition from corporate law to addressing Internet censorship. He highlighted the role of tech companies like Google and Facebook in political censorship, citing a 2017 re-ranking algorithm that prioritized authoritative sources. Benz also detailed the State Department's involvement in music diplomacy, using artists like Dua Lipa and Taylor Swift to influence global politics. He criticized the censorship industrial complex, which includes government, private, civil society, and media institutions, for suppressing dissenting voices. Benz argued that these practices undermine democratic processes and free speech. The discussion centered on the implications of controversial statements made by public figures, such as Marjorie Taylor Greene. The conversation also touched on the broader issue of censorship, particularly on platforms like Twitter, and its impact on free speech. The speakers debated the role of social media in shaping public perception and national security, referencing the January 6 riot and the influence of Elon Musk's companies on national interests. The conversation concluded with a discussion on the importance of independent media and the challenges of maintaining free speech in a censored environment.