In this captivating episode of the "Visions and Tones," host, Dr. T sits down with Dr. Rodrigo Perez Toledo, a distinguished Anthropologist from Mexico, but currently living and working in Sydney Australia, known for his compelling research on race and sexuality among Chinese communities in Sydney. Together, they delve into Dr. Perez Toledo's groundbreaking work titled '"In the Saunas, I'm Either Invisible or Camouflaged": Colonial Fantasies and Imaginations in Sydney's Gay Saunas', exploring themes of decolonial thinking, male homoeroticism, and the intriguing dynamics within Sydney’s gay saunas. Tune in as they discuss the intersection of racial identities and minoritized sexualities, ethical challenges in ethnographic research, and the complex layers of multiculturalism in Australia. Whether you're interested in Anthropology, race studies, or gender studies, this episode offers insightful perspectives and engaging dialogue. To access the article being discussed, see below: Perez, R. (2023). In the Saunas I’m Either Invisible or Camouflaged: Colonial Fantasies and Imaginations in Sydney’s Gay Saunas. Journal of Contemporary Ethnography, 52(6), 824–848. https://doi.org/10.1177/08912416231175866 Thank you for choosing the Visions & Tones Podcast.