This week on the pod, Jen and Brett sat down with writer, producer, and newly published author David Meyer. They chatted about his new book Five Minutes From a Meltdown, and got to the heart of poetry, or something like that.

David's Recommendations:

- You Don't Have to Have a Dream by Tim Minchin

- How to Be Perfect by Michael Schur

- Egghead by Bo Burnham

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