While on tour for her sophomore album Surrender, singer Maggie Rogers joins host Mathias Rosenzweig in conversation with Adrienne Maree Brown, the author of Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good, to dive deeper into the subject. What exactly is pleasure activism, and how can we incorporate it into our everyday lives in order to not only feel better, but also participate in a form of revolution? Why has pleasure been top of mind for Rogers, who recently earned her Masters from the Harvard Divinity School? And what does it feel like to release your album on the same day as Beyoncé? Listen to find out.