Dallas Rogers discusses the utility of conceptual metaphors in urban theory, emphasising their role in revealing new empirical tracks and conceptual insights. He critiques the potential for these metaphors to become empty signifiers, used merely to chase citations and social media engagement. Rogers also explores the concept of ”unsolicited urbanism,” highlighting elite deal-making behind closed doors in high-profile urban developments like Barangaroo in Sydney. Additionally, he underscores the importance of podcasting in urban research, viewing it as a means to share information, build communities, and democratise knowledge. Show notes are available on the Urban Studies Podcast website: urbanstudiesonline.com/podcast