Upstream is a politics and society podcast that takes a deeper look at our world, going beyond conventional analysis and media punditry. We interview big picture thinkers on issues and events "upstream" at their source. We bring psychology, history, culture, philosophy and human nature into the mix to gain a better understanding of what is happening, and why. Episodes are co-hosted by John Bell and/or John Zada, two co-founders of The Conciliators Guild, an organization highlighting the role of underlying motivations in politics.