Originally from the states, Andy grew up immersed in North American outdoor culture before relocating to NZ later in his adult life. In this episode Andy and I chat about adventure racing and a small but growing adventure racing community in Te Anau, on the edge of Fiordland National Park in New Zealand. Andy is the enthusiasm behind FEAR Society (AKA Fiordland Endurance and Adventure Racing Society), which is now in its fourth year serving dirtbag adventure racers. We talk about Andy’s Godzone Fiordland experience, specifically how on earth he managed to get such terrible trench foot and how he pushed through it. We also discuss risk and parenting, ego and the outdoors. We touch on the differences between North American and Kiwi outdoor culture and why Andy thinks New Zealanders make such strong adventure racers.