Welcome to Unpacked, Five Questions, a podcast that takes you behind the scenes of one great travel story. In this episode, host Katherine LaGrave sits down with New York Times bestselling author and Afar contributing writer Peggy Orenstein, who recently traded her usual slow-travel style for the bustling energy of Busan, South Korea's second-largest city. Known for her thoughtful explorations of walking trails like the Kumano Kodo pilgrimage and Slovenia's Juliana Trail, Peggy discovered that sometimes speeding things up can lead to extraordinary discoveries. On this episode you'll learn: Why choosing a country's "second city" over its capital can lead to more authentic travel experiences The fascinating history of how Busan became a refuge city during the Korean War What to expect at Korea's largest spa complex, including the mysterious sheep-head towel tradition How Busan's coastal location makes it Korea's seafood capital, not just another beef-focused destination Don't miss these moments: [03:45] The "Abigail Adams theory" of travel that inspired Peggy's approach to choosing destinations [07:20] Peggy's octopus experience at Jagalchi Fish Market and the safety warning she learned too late [12:15] Inside Spa Land: 22 thermal baths, 13 saunas, and the community culture of Korean bathhouses [16:30] The intangible "spirit of Busan" - how tranquility and turbulence coexist in this historic port city [19:10] Peggy's perfect two-day Busan itinerary, from morning coffee overlooking the port to full spa days Resources Read Peggy's complete Afar story about her Busan adventure Follow Peggy Orenstein for more travel insights and writing Watch Ode to My Father, the Korean film that first sparked Peggy's interest in Busan Read the transcript of the episode. Next Episode Preview Join Katherine in two weeks when she speaks with Emma John, a London-based journalist and Afar contributing writer, who visited Door County, Wisconsin - her 43rd U.S. state - and discovered why locals call it the "Cape Cod of the Midwest." Listen to More Afar Be sure to subscribe to the show and to sign up for our podcast newsletter, ⁠⁠Behind the Mic⁠⁠, where we share upcoming news and behind-the-scenes details of each episode. And explore our podcasts, ⁠⁠Travel Tales⁠⁠, which celebrates first-person narratives about the way travel changes us, and View From Afar, where we hear from the people shaping the future of travel. Unpacked by Afar is part of ⁠⁠Airwave Media⁠⁠'s podcast network. Please contact ⁠⁠advertising@airwavemedia.com⁠⁠ if you would like to advertise on our podcast.