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Unmuted: Voices of Leaders
Kellye Mazzoli & Charisse Deschenes
25 episodes
11 hours ago
Hosted by Charisse Deschenes and Kellye Mazzoli, Unmuted is the podcast for leaders in local government and public service who want real conversations about the parts of leadership no one talks about. We explore both the challenges and the wins, from navigating burnout to rediscovering purpose, with honesty and heart. Each episode offers candid insights, personal stories, and practical takeaways to help you grow, stay well, and stay connected in the work you love.
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Hosted by Charisse Deschenes and Kellye Mazzoli, Unmuted is the podcast for leaders in local government and public service who want real conversations about the parts of leadership no one talks about. We explore both the challenges and the wins, from navigating burnout to rediscovering purpose, with honesty and heart. Each episode offers candid insights, personal stories, and practical takeaways to help you grow, stay well, and stay connected in the work you love.
Show more...
Government
Education,
Self-Improvement
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Perfectionism is Sneaky
Unmuted: Voices of Leaders
18 minutes
3 months ago
Perfectionism is Sneaky

Kellye and Charisse discuss the pervasive issue of perfectionism among leaders. They explore how perfectionism manifests as high standards and fear, leading to stress and isolation. Through personal anecdotes, they highlight the hidden costs of striving for perfection, including mental and physical health impacts. The conversation emphasizes the importance of authenticity in leadership and the need to detach self-worth from outcomes. They encourage listeners to embrace vulnerability and lead without the pressure of perfection.

Chapters

00:00 The Hidden Costs of Perfectionism

01:37  Personal Stories of Leadership and Perfectionism

04:43 Decision-Making Under Pressure

08:28 The Physical Toll of Perfectionism

10:56  Unlearning Perfectionism

13:38  The Isolation of Perfectionism

16:14   Embracing Imperfection in Leadership

Takeaways

  • Perfectionism disguises itself as high standards.
  • Fear of judgment drives perfectionism.
  • Leadership requires making decisions with partial information.
  • Perfectionism can lead to analysis paralysis.
  • Authentic leadership is about being real, not flawless.
  • Perfectionism can cause physical stress and health issues.
  • Detaching self-worth from outcomes is crucial.
  • Real transformation starts with honesty.
  • Growth often requires discomfort and vulnerability.
  • You are not alone in your struggle with perfectionism.
Unmuted: Voices of Leaders
Hosted by Charisse Deschenes and Kellye Mazzoli, Unmuted is the podcast for leaders in local government and public service who want real conversations about the parts of leadership no one talks about. We explore both the challenges and the wins, from navigating burnout to rediscovering purpose, with honesty and heart. Each episode offers candid insights, personal stories, and practical takeaways to help you grow, stay well, and stay connected in the work you love.