In this special crossover episode of Unlock Your Leadership, Dr Gary Crotaz joins Adam Pacifico, executive coach, author, and host of The Leadership Enigma podcast, for an open and energising conversation about what it really takes to lead in a world that’s constantly changing. Recorded on The Leadership Enigma, this episode brings together two leadership thinkers with a shared mission: to make leadership more human, courageous, and clear. Adam and Gary explore the tensions at the heart of modern leadership — between confidence and humility, structure and spontaneity, clarity and curiosity. They share stories from their work with senior leaders across industries, reflecting on what separates the good from the truly great — and how self-awareness, empathy, and learning from failure define leadership that lasts. It’s a lively, thought-provoking exchange that unpacks the enigma of leadership itself — and reminds us that in a complex world, the best leaders are those who stay grounded, open, and real. Originally recorded for The Unlock Moment podcast.