Steve and Tim talked with Prof. Ron Kander at the NAMES meeting in Atlanta last month.  Ron talked about his experiences creating new engineering programs, first at James Madison University and later at Philadelphia University which has now become Thomas Jefferson University.  He took the Olin model one step further by developing a design first approach that included Engineering, Design, and Business.  You can learn more about the Kanbar College of Design, Engineering & Commerce (Named for Maurice Kanbar - not Ron Kander) here:

https://www.jefferson.edu/academics/colleges-schools-institutes/kanbar-college-of-design-engineering-commerce.html

Ron has recently retired but his information is still up on the Thomas Jefferson University website:

https://www.jefferson.edu/academics/colleges-schools-institutes/kanbar-college-of-design-engineering-commerce/about/message-from-dean.html

You can also learn about Ron and his research at this page:

https://ronkander.academia.edu/

The YouTube video of the podcast can be found here:

https://youtu.be/9CbPfjtsM6s

This episode is sponsored by the University of Michigan Materials Science and Engineering department (https://mse.engin.umich.edu).